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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barbara Drescher]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am doing some more &#8216;navel gazing&#8217;, but in a very real sense, it is of a skeptical nature. Given the name of this blog space, it should be no surprise that my primary goals include refuting or correcting misinformation. Well, I found some more of the kind I have written about many times here: [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="pf-content"><p>I am doing some more &#8216;navel gazing&#8217;, but in a very real sense, it is of a skeptical nature. Given the name of this blog space, it should be no surprise that my primary goals include refuting or correcting misinformation. Well, I found some more of the kind I have <a href="http://icbseverywhere.com/blog/2011/08/take-back-skepticism-part-iii-the-dunning-kruger-effect/" target="_blank">written</a> <a href="http://icbseverywhere.com/blog/2011/08/take-back-skepticism-part-i-the-elephant-in-the-room/" target="_blank">about</a> <a href="http://icbseverywhere.com/blog/2010/08/irony-hypocrisy-and-being-human/" target="_blank">many</a> <a href="http://icbseverywhere.com/blog/2010/04/scientific-skepticism-a-tutorial/" target="_blank">times</a> <a title="You Can't Judge an Argument by Its Conclusion" href="http://icbseverywhere.com/blog/2012/05/you-cant-judge-an-argument-by-its-conclusion/" target="_blank">here</a>: misunderstandings and/or misrepresentations of the nature of skepticism, of statements made by myself and others, and of the &#8216;movement&#8217; in general.</p>
<p>I will start by quoting from the <a href="http://ashleyfmiller.wordpress.com/2012/05/21/women-in-secularism-the-good-the-bad-the-awesome/#comment-3662" target="_blank">comments</a> of another blog because I don&#8217;t want this comment to go unread. The comment was written by D.J. Grothe, President of the <a title="James Randi Educational Foundation" href="http://www.randi.org/" target="_blank">JREF</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;Leaving aside your conflation of atheism, skepticism and secularism, allow me to respond to a few of your remarks.</p>
<p>I appreciate that you reference the diversity panel I programmed into last year’s TAM schedule. JREF is happy to have taken the lead in such programming at conferences, having had both a panel and a workshop on women’s issue in 2010, and a panel on diversity in 2011. We plan some similar programming along these lines in 2012. And I am personally proud that half the speakers at TAM last year were women, and about 40% of the attendees were women (we programmed TAM this way not out of some commitment to quotas, but because we know that skepticism in general and the event in particular are better off if we include the talents of everyone, not just one half of the population). This is a marked improvement over where these allied movements were 15 years ago when I first got involved professionally.</p>
<p>As the only organization in the skeptic/atheist/humanist world run by a gay man, JREF takes issues of diversity seriously (<a href="http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/1430-diversity-at-the-amazng-meeting-9.html" target="_blank">http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/1430-diversity-at-the-amazng-meeting-9.html</a>), including political and religious diversity. (I might add that this one reason why we find it very important to avoid conflating skepticism with atheism; to repeat what I have said elsewhere: JREF is not an atheist organization (<a href="http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/1081-new-atheist-directions-at-the-jref.html" target="_blank">http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/1081-new-atheist-directions-at-the-jref.html</a>). Similarly, even though Randi and I are both gay men, JREF is not a gay rights organization.)</p>
<p>But to clarify, I never argued that skepticism should be completely removed from social issues. Indeed, I argued quite the opposite, both in that diversity panel and in a number of previous talks (<a href="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/05/10/d-j-grothe-skepticism-and-humanism/" target="_blank">http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/05/10/d-j-grothe-skepticism-and-humanism/</a>) that I have given over the years. The skepticism JREF advances is motivated by our interest in the well being of others, and out of our commitment to make the world a better place, not just from a petty desire to prove others wrong. When skeptics rail against the use of the ADE 561 dowsing rod as a bomb detector at checkpoints in Afghanistan and Iraq, we do so because that unfounded belief kills people. When skeptics rage against psychics who prey on the grieving, we do so not only because belief in psychics in bunk, but because belief in psychics really hurts people.</p>
<p>I do believe it is important for nonprofits to remain focused on their unique missions, and to avoid “mission creep.” The JREF’s mission is to “promote critical thinking by reaching out to the public and media with reliable information about paranormal and supernatural ideas so widespread in our society today.” Obviously, there are many other important missions and causes for folks to commit themselves to, in addition to JREF’s cause. Indeed, for nearly 20 years I’ve been involved with LGBT activism, as well as with atheist activism, and with environmentalism. But I would never join, say, PETA and insist they focus on other causes I care about like global warming instead of their mission, nor would I join the NRA and demand they start advocating for gay rights instead of the right to bear arms.</p>
<p>That said, JREF’s work over many years has been precisely to address the harm that results from undue credulity, and often within marginalized communities. Consider that Peter Popoff preys mostly on socio-economically disadvantaged communities of color, or that there is a lot of harmful pseudoscience peddled about and within the gay community. Or look at the work of Leo Igwe, the Nigerian skeptic and activist who works with the JREF to combat persecution of “witches” in Africa&#8230;.</p></blockquote>
<p>D.J.&#8217;s comment mainly addressed the <a href="http://ashleyfmiller.wordpress.com/2012/05/21/women-in-secularism-the-good-the-bad-the-awesome/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">following</a> (NOTE: this is edited somewhat, but I do believe that there is enough context to convey the author&#8217;s intended message.):</p>
<blockquote><p>One of the things that I have trouble with in this movement is the lack of focus on issues that “matter”&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;as someone who cares deeply about social justice, it has very often been a very difficult movement to be a part of. For me the great appeal of secularism, the great tragedy of religion, and my own personal passion for this cause is all centered around the fact that religion is the source of many evils or used to justify those evils perpetrated against humanity. As was said several times over the weekend, UFOs and Bigfoot aren’t that important to me, skepticism is much more interesting when applied to issues that impact people’s lives in serious ways. Children, minorities, people of color, women, poor people, the disabled, the elderly, LGBT, and other marginalized groups would benefit so much from having the tragic consequences of religious bigotry removed from their lives.</p>
<p>So when people in charge of important organizations speak on a panel at TAM to say that social justice isn’t and shouldn’t be within the purview of skepticism, or people in my local atheist group leave because they think it is inappropriate that someone posted a link to a story about the Rally Against the War on Women because who cares about that feminist bullshit, or important people in the movement tell me not to bother submitting something to TAM if it has anything to do, even tangentially, with women’s issues, I start to doubt why I am even involved.</p></blockquote>
<p>First, I must say that I find the implication topics in traditional skepticism do not &#8220;matter&#8221; nothing less than offensive. If you agree with that statement, I invite you to visit <a href="http://whatstheharm.net/" target="_blank">whatstheharm.net</a> and read a few of the stories under topics that D.J. mentioned. Then tell the families of children who were <a href="http://www.skeptic.com/doubtful-news/ugandan-boy-survived-child-sacrifice/" target="_blank">maimed</a> or <a href="http://digitaljournal.com/article/317075" target="_blank">decapitated</a> by witch doctors that their suffering does not &#8220;matter&#8221;. Tell the people who were bilked out of their life&#8217;s savings by psychics that their problems do not &#8220;matter&#8221;. Tell the people whose loved ones succumbed to cancer because they were told that their faith would heal them that their deaths &#8211; that <em>they</em> &#8211; do not &#8220;matter&#8221;. Tell them that these things did not &#8220;impact their lives in serious ways&#8221;.  Need I go on? Or perhaps that statement should have read, &#8220;&#8230;lack of focus on issues that &#8220;matter&#8221;<em> to me</em>.&#8221;<div id="attachment_1472" style="width: 260px" class="wp-caption alignright"><a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500160_162-507515.html"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1472" title="Psychic Belief" src="http://icbseverywhere.com/blog/wp-content/media/2012/05/Psychic-250x178.jpg" alt="The majority of Americans believe in psychic phenomena, although that proportion is declining, thanks to the efforts of groups like the JREF." width="250" height="178" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">According to a CBS poll, the majority of Americans believe in psychic phenomena, although that proportion is declining, thanks to the efforts of groups like the JREF.</p></div></p>
<p>Newsflash: The issues addressed by the JREF and other skeptic organizations <em>matter to me</em>. They <em>matter to others</em>. They &#8220;matter&#8221;.</p>
<p>It is easy to wave the vague flag of liberal ideology, to throw out terms such as &#8220;marginalized groups&#8221; and claim to care about the well-being of others, but how does that translate to real progress? What, exactly, are you doing that &#8220;matters&#8221; more than the work you claim does not &#8220;matter&#8221;?</p>
<p>Next, although D.J. is not named, it is clear that in the second paragraph the author refers first to D.J.&#8217;s comments on a panel about diversity in skepticism which appeared at last year&#8217;s <a href="http://www.amazingmeeting.com/" target="_blank">Amazing Meeting</a>. This panel sparked quite a bit of discussion and at least one <a href="http://www.skepticblog.org/2011/07/22/surprising-twists/" target="_blank">blog post</a>. Many clarifications and &#8220;hammer-it-home&#8221; comments were made, including this one by D.J. (bold mine):</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>No questions should be off-limits to us, no issues taboo</strong>, including religious beliefs. And I feel the same way about diversity when it comes to political and economic views. <strong>I would hate to see the skeptics movement become merely a platform for left-leaning (or right-leaning) ideologies.</strong> As I have said many times, I personally favor a skepticism that is widely and consistently applied (and personally believe that will lead to atheism), but I professionally also favor organizations that have clear and limited missions, since an organization that tries to do everything may end up doing nothing very well&#8230;. our mission is focused on the paranormal, pseudoscience and testable supernatural claims. Unapologetically.</p></blockquote>
<p>D.J. noted that the JREF plans to post video of the entire panel soon, so you can see for yourself what was actually said about the scope of skepticism.</p>
<p>Before I add my two cents (or more of it), there is one part of D.J.&#8217;s comment which I think is likely to be challenged:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;I might correct the misinformation or misunderstanding that there are people who go around insisting that skeptics only focus on UFOs or Bigfoot; a quick review of the program over the last few TAMs should disabuse you of the misunderstanding, or combat the misinformation&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Discussions of the scope of the movement have popped up in the past and there are those who advocate for a focus on traditional topics such as psychics and UFO abduction. However, any interpretations of those efforts as &#8220;insisting&#8221;, &#8220;telling people what to do&#8221;, or even as a question of the definition of skepticism, are misguided.</p>
<p>I know of no instance in which an individual connected with a skeptic organization (big or small) or a blog or anything else which might identify the person as involved with Skepticism has disagreed with the ideal behavior of applying skepticism to all aspects of life. If you think that is untrue, please read at least the first half of <a href="http://icbseverywhere.com/blog/2012/05/you-cant-judge-an-argument-by-its-conclusion/" target="_blank">this post</a> before reading further here. If you still disagree, please provide examples in the comments of this post.</p>
<p>There are good reasons for organizational focus which go beyond the issue of &#8220;mission creep&#8221;. One involves the fact that movement skepticism is, as D.J. noted in his discussions of the diversity panel, diverse. I say this, not to point out the inclusion that goes along with diversity, but the fact that a group of people who agree on what is best for society in every possible way is not a group at all. It&#8217;s an individual. People are complex. Issues are complex.</p>
<p>Skeptics promote scientific skepticism because they agree that it is the best way to evaluate claims. They do not necessarily agree on political, economic, and social issues.</p>
<p>Most importantly, however, is that the only role that ideology can play in science or scientific skepticism is in motivating individuals to act. <a href="http://video.skeptrack.org/?playVideo=27" target="_blank">Ideology [30 min mark]</a> gets in the way of <a title="Paved with Good Intentions" href="http://icbseverywhere.com/blog/2011/10/paved-with-good-intentions/" target="_blank">good reasoning</a> and good science.</p>
<p>This does not mean that science and scientific skepticism should not <em>inform</em> one&#8217;s personal ideology, but this is not the same thing. It also does not mean that one&#8217;s values should not motivate them to do what they do, as D.J. has noted on numerous occasions (follow the links in his comment). For example, the claim that homosexuals are more likely to be child molesters is one that organized skepticism can address with scientific evidence.  The claim that homosexuality is &#8220;morally wrong&#8221; is not.</p>
<p>It is worth noting that self-described skeptics are overwhelmingly supportive of gay rights initiatives, but that does not make gay rights a skeptical issue. The ability to separate scientific and logical reasoning from ideology makes it possible to know what we know about homosexuality, which paves the way for acceptance of it. however, when we start with ideology and allow it to lead us, we greatly impair our ability to draw reliable conclusions.</p>
<p>Moving on, I would like to say something about the conflation issue that D.J. set aside, because I think that the problem is related. Here&#8217;s my hypothesis about what happens in this community:</p>
<ol>
<li>There are large overlaps of the communities of skepticism, secularism/humanism, and atheism, with individuals who are involved in more than one and with organizations working together on specific projects.</li>
<li>There is a high correlation of identification with one or more of these communities and socially-liberal values.</li>
<li>An individual discovers the community, either through skepticism, secularism, or atheism, and mistakes this correlation with a &#8220;movement&#8221;.</li>
</ol>
<p>Here&#8217;s the thing: skepticism, secularism, and atheism are different things. Among them, secularism has the closest ties with liberal ideology, but even secularism is not liberalism.</p>
<p>This may seem unimportant to some and I have often heard the argument, &#8220;But people care about X!&#8221; That argument is not relevant. If you care about X, promote X. Just stop calling it Y and stop insisting that promoters of Y also promote X.</p>
<p>Furthermore, referring to complaints about conflation as &#8220;nit-picking&#8221; is ironically anti-intellectual. These distinctions <strong>matter</strong>. A lot. If you do not know the difference between these things, and if you discuss them as if they are one, the integrity of skepticism as a scientifically-minded endeavor is lost. So are your ability to reason well and the ability of skeptic organizations to achieve their goals. As Daniel Loxton <a href="http://www.skepticblog.org/2011/07/22/surprising-twists/" target="_blank">often says</a>, &#8220;good fences make good neighbors&#8221;.</p>
<p>Individuals new to the communities are best served by studying these issues before publicly opining about them, much as we are all best served by speakers whose expertise supports the content of their talks. Unfortunately, I think that many do not see a role for themselves in activism unless it&#8217;s a leadership role. I find that a bit sad; there is plenty to be done while one learns the field.</p>
<p>Finally, I will add that complaints about TAM and other conferences failing to offer &#8220;what I want&#8221; leave me scratching my head. Most of these complaints are ridiculously off-base if you look at the content that is offered. Even if the topics you want are not discussed, <em>so what</em>? It is not organized <em>just for you</em> and what <em>you</em> think is important.</p>
<p>The Amazing Meeting is a curated event for which speakers (and discussion topics) are chosen by the curators themselves. It is clearly content hat more than 1650 people wanted last year, a number that has grown by at least 10% each year. If you are not among those people, then by all means, go to a conference that meets your requirements for &#8220;worthy of attending&#8221;.</p>
<p>Or perhaps this is really about whether or not the community should have input into the programming of such events. In that case, I can only point out that the community has plenty of input. You choose to attend/not attend. If you attend, you are asked to provide comments about what you did/did not like as well as offer suggestions for the future.</p>
<p>Anyone here think that your input should be valued more than that of the other attendees?</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barbara Drescher]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[From a NY Times article which appeared last week: Some years ago, Dr. Robert A. Burton was the neurologist on call at a San Francisco hospital when a high-profile colleague from the oncology department asked him to perform a spinal tap on an elderly patient with advanced metastatic cancer. The patient had seemed a little [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="pf-content"><p>From a <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/04/science/04angier.html">NY Times article</a> which appeared last week:</p>
<blockquote><p>Some years ago, Dr. Robert A. Burton was the neurologist on call at a San Francisco hospital when a high-profile colleague from the oncology department asked him to perform a spinal tap on an elderly patient with advanced metastatic cancer. The patient had seemed a little fuzzy-headed that morning, and the oncologist wanted to check for meningitis or another infection that might be treatable with antibiotics.</p>
<p>Dr. Burton hesitated. Spinal taps are painful. The patient’s overall prognosis was beyond dire. Why go after an ancillary infection? But the oncologist, known for his uncompromising and aggressive approach to treatment, insisted.</p>
<p>“For him, there was no such thing as excessive,” Dr. Burton said in a telephone interview. “For him, there was always hope.”</p>
<p>On entering the patient’s room with spinal tap tray portentously agleam, Dr. Burton encountered the patient’s family members. They begged him not to proceed. The frail, bedridden patient begged him not to proceed. Dr. Burton conveyed their pleas to the oncologist, but the oncologist continued to lobby for a spinal tap, and the exhausted family finally gave in.</p>
<p>As Dr. Burton had feared, the procedure proved painful and difficult to administer. It revealed nothing of diagnostic importance. And it left the patient with a grinding spinal-tap headache that lasted for days, until the man fell into a coma and died of his malignancy.</p></blockquote>
<p>The oncologist&#8217;s intentions were good, but he cared so much for the welfare of his patients that it clouded his judgment about what was best for his patients. The goal he wanted to accomplish was driven by his values, as most goals are, but his ability to accomplish that goal was hindered by the same values.</p>
<p>In the past month alone, I have seen good skeptics deny consensus science, cherry-pick, hyper-rationalize, and engage in a number of poor practices in order to justify their decisions or actions. In the past few years, I have noted an embarrassingly large number of occasions in which skeptics have charged forward with ideas in ways I consider to be counterproductive and, in some cases, potentially harmful &#8211; giving talks and workshops without an appropriate amount of knowledge on the subject, staging meaningless protests simply because they&#8217;ve gained attention, or wasting resources conducting surveys and experiments without clear goals, training, or regard for issues such as the ethical treatment of human subjects. I am sure that these skeptics were motivated by a desire to make a difference &#8211; a desire to <em>do</em> something. However, ideology, values, passion, and beliefs got in the way of good reasoning. For example, last year a group of skeptics, angry that an anti-vax rally starring Wakefield was going on in their town, charged forward without consulting an expert and distributed a number of fliers which said, in part:</p>
<blockquote><p>Vaccines&#8230;don&#8217;t cause diseases or disorders or distress or dystopia. In fact, receiving vaccines is completely safe.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I need to go into the possible ramifications of this mistake.</p>
<p>Skepticism, as a movement, promotes critical thinking, careful consideration of evidence, and attention to details which are easily missed. When skeptics fail to apply those same principles to the work their actions are, at best, wasteful and, at worst, potentially harmful.</p>
<p>I found myself scratching my head last week when D.J. Grothe posted <a href="http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/1441-should-skepticism-be-divorced-from-values.html">this article</a> to <em>Swift</em> titled <em>Should skepticism be divorced from values?</em>. It was a surprise for two reasons. 1) On most matters of the philosophy of skepticism and even activism, D.J. and I are in near-total agreement, yet I did not agree with this piece at all. 2) It seems to contradict some of D.J.&#8217;s statements, particularly those he has made on the stage at various events.</p>
<p>In an effort to better understand, I entered a conversation on Facebook and tried to explain my confusion as well as my opinion. I failed. D.J., no doubt drawing on experiences in conversations with me and others about similar topics, is certain that we agree and that talking it out will eventually lead us both to see that. I am not as confident. Although I do not doubt that D.J. will agree with <em>nearly</em> everything in this post, I think we will remain divided on an important point.</p>
<p>First, let me declare now that I have a tremendous respect for D.J. At every event he seems to find ways to communicate the most important fundamentals of organized skepticism, facts that new participants need to know (and seasoned skeptics need to remember) such as organizational scope, tolerance, and integrity. He does so without apology. He is also one of the best panel moderators and interviewers I have ever seen. He asks tough questions without blinking and, when those questions are not directly answered, he steers the conversation in the direction intended. That said, the post bothered me and not a little bit.</p>
<p>Second, I will not use the term &#8220;divorced&#8221; because I don&#8217;t feel that conveys an appropriate level of distance (so, in that sense, one may split hairs and say that D.J. and I agree). I will use &#8220;separate&#8221;.</p>
<h4>A little bit of background</h4>
<p>In the post and afterward, D.J. notes that the post is a reinforcement of his 2010 <a href="http://vimeo.com/18007707">NECSS talk</a> &#8211; a talk I quite like. There are elements of the talk of which I take issue, but overall I feel that it is a good &#8220;initiation&#8221; talk for new skeptics. I would summarize the talk this way:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Skepticism&#8221; refers to a method for evaluating claims, but it also refers to a movement. The movement is a type of humanism. It is a type of humanism because those who began it did so for humanitarian reasons. To Randi, it&#8217;s just the right thing to do. This humanism drives me (D.J.) and most others I know; we debunk and educate because pseudoscience is harmful. We share the value that to know reality is to avoid such harm. In order to do this work, we must also have a strong mind &#8211; the kind of mind that allows us to see reality as it is and not how we would like it to be.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that D.J. would disagree with this summary, but perhaps his emphasis is different from mine. I would expect that. As an instructor and researcher, I have focused on the importance of objectivity and how to achieve it. As an activist, D.J. has focused on the reduction of harm.</p>
<p>However, I believe that D.J.&#8217;s <em>Swift</em> post differs significantly from this talk and introduces a serious problem in an attempt to emphasize the humanistic goals of organized skepticism. The problem is in the title and is the theme of the post &#8211; a theme I do not believe it shares with the NECSS talk. Regardless of D.J.&#8217;s intended message, I feel very strongly that this post sends the wrong message &#8211; a message that it&#8217;s okay (maybe even important) to allow one&#8217;s &#8220;moral indignation&#8221; to dictate how the work is done. It&#8217;s not. In fact, it&#8217;s more than just not okay. A core property &#8211; THE core property &#8211; of good science is objectivity. Values are important. Values motivate us to act and provide us with goals. However, values, practically by definition, erode objectivity almost universally.</p>
<p>In a comment on Facebook, D.J. stated:</p>
<blockquote><p>I don&#8217;t want the position that one must separate ethics from her skepticism to gain ground. It&#8217;s both wrong, and also counter my goals.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ethics are a slightly different issue and very domain-specific. D.J. specifically described a moral imperative (to mitigate the harm that pseudoscience causes), so in my mind &#8220;moral values&#8221; replaces &#8220;ethics&#8221; in his sentence and I address it as such.</p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;">The problem of values</span></p>
<p>It is actually <em>unethical</em>, in my opinion, to <em>fail</em> to separate one&#8217;s moral values from the work.</p>
<p>Is it ethical for a pharmacist to refuse to sell contraceptives, yet expect to be allowed to continue in that career? Is it ethical for a doctor to tell the parents of a fifteen year old victim of incest about her pregnancy because he believes that she&#8217;s lying and the father is the head of the household?</p>
<p>Those are, of course, examples of situations in which the values conflict with the work. However, there are many, many ways in which the same values that motivate people to pursue a career or volunteer work hinder their ability to do that work well. This is more obvious in some careers than others; some that come to mind immediately (other than the most obvious, scientists) are doctors, politicians, judges, journalists, and teachers. For example, would it be it ethical for the teacher who wrote<a href="http://www.centredaily.com/2011/10/06/2940051/yourletters.html"> this letter </a>to fail to teach evolution because he feels that it makes kids &#8220;think like atheists&#8221;, something he feels is harmful to kids? Is it okay for a journalist to slant a story rather than simply report the facts?</p>
<p>One of D.J.&#8217;s comments sums up the differences between us, I think. He wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>I do not favor letting the suggestion stand that the method of skepticism should be practiced in a value-neutral vacuum.</p></blockquote>
<p>Insisting that practitioners separate their values from the work is not even close to creating &#8220;a vacuum&#8221;. The &#8220;moral imperative&#8221; provides both motivation and a general purpose (e.g., &#8220;to reduce or eliminate the harm caused by pseudoscience&#8221;). However, that is where the role of values should end. I contend that <strong>any practice of skepticism that does <em>not</em> strive to be value-neutral is contradictory, counterproductive, hypocritical, and generally just bad</strong>.</p>
<p>Another of his comments reads, in part:</p>
<blockquote><p>If what you are saying is that the work of skepticism should be practiced in a value-neutral way, and that our priorities as skeptics should not be informed by our ethical commitments (as an example, defrauding someone of their nest egg with fake psychic claims is equivalent to your grandpa thinking he can dowse in your backyard) then I disagree.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, this is quite a loaded statement, but I am saying something very much like this. I am certainly <em>not</em> saying that those two examples are equal, but I <em>am</em> saying that priorities should be informed by facts. One of those facts is a goal or set of goals which were derived, in part, from values. Once a general purpose or mission is defined, the question of priorities is epistemological; we need to know which projects best meet our goals. The examples D.J. provided are easy to compare, but what about the more difficult comparisons? Which should be a higher priority, rallying people pass out fliers at a &#8220;talk&#8221; by the author of an anti-vaccine book or producing materials to be used in classrooms to teach kids how to evaluate claims? In both the easy and the difficult scenarios, the choice should be driven by the organizational goals (facts) and information about how each scenario meets those goals (more facts). <em>Values should be set aside because they impair our ability to perceive, process, and remember facts. </em></p>
<p>Recognizing one&#8217;s motivations and separating them from the process of reasoning <em>is a fundamental part</em> of both science and skepticism.</p>
<p>If you think about the psychologists who have spoken at TAM and other events, most of the topics covered are d to the myriad of ways that human beings err in receiving, recording, remembering, and processing information about the world. It is precisely because we are so bad at this that we need science. And it is precisely because we are so bad at this that skeptical activism exists.</p>
<p>The examples we use to demonstrate these flaws are usually a bit removed from daily life. Visual illusions, pareidolia, and probability problems do not always show how subtle the reasoning problems can be. Consider this example from a recent Scientific American<a href="http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/2011/10/04/lessons-from-sherlock-holmes-trust-in-the-facts-not-your-version-of-them/"> blog post</a> <em>Lessons from Sherlock Holmes: Trust in The Facts, Not Your Version of Them</em> (bold mine):</p>
<blockquote><p>When we look around us, what is it that we see? Do we see things as they are, or do we at once, without thinking, begin to interpret? Take the simple example of a wine glass. All it is is a transparent object that holds a liquid–which we know by experience should be wine. But if we’re in a store and late for a party? It’s a present, an object of value and beauty for someone else to appreciate. At home and thirsty? It becomes, perhaps, a water glass, if nothing else is available. Bored? A toy to turn around and around, seeing what reflections we can see, how we can distort our own face on the curved surfaces. Solving a murder? Potential evidence of some final, telling pre-death interaction–perhaps the victim took a final sip before he met an untimely end.</p>
<p>Soon, instead of saying there is a wine glass on the table, you say the victim’s glass had been empty at the time of the crime. And you proceed from there. Why was the victim drinking? Why was he interrupted? Why had he placed the glass where it was? And if it doesn’t make sense? Impossible. You’ve started with a fact and worked your way forward. It must fit. The only thing is, you’ve forgotten that it was just a glass to begin with. The victim’s? Maybe not. Placed there by him? Who knows. Empty at the time of the crime? Perhaps, but perhaps not. You’ve imbued an object with a personal take so naturally that you don’t realize you’ve done it. And that’s the crucial–and sometimes fatal–error, of both reasoning and world perception. A pipe is never just a pipe.</p>
<p>Hardly ever, in describing an object, do we see it as just a valueless, objective wine glass. And hardly ever do we think to consider the distinction–for of course, it hardly ever matters. <strong>But it’s the rare mind that has trained itself to separate the objective fact from the immediate, subconscious and automatic subjective interpretation that follows.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>The way our perceptual and cognitive systems operate allows us to function in the world, but higher-order thinking requires recognizing the flaws in this system and correcting for them. This is the &#8220;strong mind&#8221; that D.J. was talking about in his NECSS talk. Most skeptics are intimately familiar with the <em>confirmation bias</em>, which is the tendency to notice, remember, believe, and assign more weight to information that is consistent with our current beliefs than neutral or conflicting information. This bias is one of many biases and heuristics, but it is arguably the one that does the most damage to our ability to reason well. What many skeptics may forget is how many of our beliefs are ideological &#8211; driven by moral values and opinions more than facts. These beliefs are even more difficult to set aside because they embody <em>what we wish to be true</em> more than simply what we think is true. So it is even more important to separate ideology from epistemology and decision-making than other beliefs.</p>
<p>Most readers are familiar with the thought experiments in moral reasoning which provide a framework for the practice of solving moral dilemmas, but they illustrate my point well. A variant of &#8220;the trolley problem&#8221; is particularly relevant:</p>
<blockquote><p>A train (trolley) is running out of control down a track. In its path are five people who have been tied to the track by a mad philosopher. Fortunately, you are on a bridge under which it will pass, and you can stop it by dropping a heavy weight in front of it. As it happens, there is a very fat man next to you &#8211; your only way to stop the trolley is to push him over the bridge and onto the track, killing him to save five, but you know for certain that it will work. You do not weigh enough to stop the train, so simply jumping is an act of suicide that will not save the people. Nobody will see you push him, so there are no social or legal consequences to consider. Would you push him?</p></blockquote>
<p>This is a very tough choice. On the one hand, your <em>ability</em> to act in this situation alone makes you <em>morally obligated</em> to act, at least according to many. Failing to act is an action in and of itself; you&#8217;ve allowed five people to die. Pushing the man off the bridge is an act which can only be considered murder. The most morally-correct decision is generally considered the utilitarian decision to throw the fat man over, yet few people make that choice. [NOTE: <em>I am fully aware that some argue about whether utilitarianism is truly rational and I will not discuss those issues here. I will just say that these scenarios severely limit the number of possible strategies and force a choice between them.</em>]</p>
<p>This is, admittedly, grossly oversimplified moral reasoning without an epistemological context, but it is not difficult to add such context.  In fact, this exercise was, ironically, part of a recent study that provides that kind of context in addition to explaining what&#8217;s wrong with using the problem as more than an illustration.</p>
<p><a href="http://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21757191">Bartels and Pizarro</a> presented students with a series of bridge-style exercises, including a &#8220;fat man&#8221; version the trolley problem. What they found was that the rate of utilitarian responses were positively correlated with measures of psychopathy (someone high in psychopathy will be low in empathy and relatively anti-social) and machiavellianism (the degree to which an individual is emotionally detached, cynical, and manipulative).</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t understand the study, as the media clearly didn&#8217;t (big surprise), you might be tempted to conclude (as the media did) that people who care little about others can make the best decisions about what is best for the majority. This is an ugly finding that many people are likely to reject, simply because they don&#8217;t like it. Science doesn&#8217;t work that way. Science is about truth, not values, and sometimes the truth is just not pretty. Scientists who fail to separate their values and motivations from their work fail to interpret evidence appropriately (or form good theory). The same is true for skepticism.</p>
<p>However, when viewed in the context of the literature on moral judgments, the finding is not about the characteristics of reasoners, but the use of these exercises to measure moral reasoning:</p>
<blockquote><p>Our study illustrates that the widely adopted use of sacrificial dilemmas in the study of moral judgment fails to distinguish between people who are motivated to endorse utilitarian moral choices because of underlying emotional deficits (such as those captured by our measures of psychopathy and Machiavellianism) and those who endorse it out of genuine concern for the welfare of others and a considered belief that utilitarianism is the optimal way of achieving the goals of morality.</p></blockquote>
<p>Now, I think that there is something missing from this study that would likely wash out the effects, namely that the sample of college students is likely to be filled with people who have not yet spent much time thinking about moral dilemmas. In fact, <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/13/opinion/if-it-feels-right.html?_r=2&amp;nl=todaysheadlines&amp;emc=tha212">a 2008 study</a> suggests that most undergraduate students do not even know what a moral dilemma is. There are exceptions, but many students might have genuine concern for the welfare of others, but fail to recognize utilitarianism as an optimal choice at this time in their lives. I suspect that, given a sample with a wider age range, the effects would be reduced or disappear as the proportion of caring utilitarians increases.</p>
<p>Even with such a sample, though, the authors&#8217; conclusions in regard to their purpose stand because, in part, the scenarios do not consider <em>how</em> the individual arrived at the choice. A common problem in studies of cognitive processing is that arriving at the prescriptive answer is no guarantee that one has followed good reason to get there. Consider the atheist who endorses alternative medicine (*cough* Bill Maher). The exercises are easily reduced to a simple math problem. What they have measured is one&#8217;s ability to determine the &#8220;morally correct&#8221; course of action given a specific scenario, <em>not whether they have adopted the moral values that we assume are embodied in that choice</em>.</p>
<p>So what does this have to do with skepticism and values? Let me explain by telling you what I would predict if I could observe participants in real-life situations as described by the &#8220;fat man&#8221;. I believe that the psychopaths and machiavellians would fail to push the fat man. They may know that this is the best moral choice, but not care. They have no motivation to act. The result is failing to save four people (net).</p>
<p>So, I believe that values are extremely important because they motivate us to take action. However, which action is best? The individual who is unable to separate their values from the choice they have to make, at least according to and this many other studies, usually fails to make the utilitarian choice in any case.<strong> If you do not know what the best choice is, how can you take the best action?</strong> (This, by the way, is what is meant by &#8220;informing values&#8221;. I contend that we can only do so by first setting them aside.) I&#8217;d predict that those who both value the lives of others<em> and</em> are able to set that value aside and solve the problem objectively are much more likely to take action than <em>either</em> of the two others. In less restricted, real-world scenarios, these are the people who take the actions which are most likely to lead to positive change.</p>
<h4>The consequences of value-driven actions</h4>
<p>Humanism is an ideology which drives us to promote skepticism. That same ideology drives others to a long list of careers and activities, from social worker to clergy to homeopathic product sales. Secular humanism may reduce that group to atheists and agnostics, but my point here is that humanism is not why we promote skepticism. It&#8217;s why we want to help people. We promote scientific skepticism for a number of reasons, some of which are shared, such as the belief that it is the best way to evaluate claims. Some other reasons to choose skeptical activism as a means of helping people are that we find it interesting or have a specific skill set which can be of use. However, these are motivations to do the work and not the work itself.</p>
<p>I realize that I now sound like a broken record, but if we fail to separate these motivations from the work, we fail to be objective. &#8220;Righteous indignation&#8221; may lead to action, but it does not always lead to positive actions when it clouds our judgment. How do we keep it from clouding our judgment? By separating it from the work. Cool heads prevail; hot heads make mistakes.</p>
<p>Good intentions have motivated people to do all sorts of things. Outcomes from the actions we take with good intentions are just like those we take when our intentions are not so good: they vary from great to devastating. Take, for example, the well-intentioned &#8220;Self-Esteem Movement&#8221;, an effort to increase academic performance, reduce bullying, and create a long list of other benefits.  With the best of intentions and motivated by values that I believe most of us share, educators, parents, and psychologists plowed forward with programs and policies which are still very alive and well today. These policies have done irreparable harm to our children and society in general because they achieve the opposite of the goals they set out to acheive.</p>
<p>Contrary to popular belief, children do not need high self-esteem in order to succeed.  In fact, efforts to raise self-esteem are extremely counter-productive and harmful because they tend to increase not self-esteem, but narcissism. These efforts are particularly harmful when enacted as part of a bully prevention program. The Freudian idea that bullies are compensating for low self-esteem is not only myth, but the opposite is true. Bullies are narcissistic and entitled. Attempting to raise their self-esteem makes the problem <em>worse</em>, not better. Recent reviews of the literature lead to clear conclusions: narcissists often respond to criticism and rejection with aggression. They do this because they are incapable of understanding the point of view of another and, therefore, helpless to change it. Like a toddler with no negotiation skills, they throw a tantrum.</p>
<p>Most laypersons adopt similar views of criminals and others with anti-social behaviors. It feels better to think of people who do bad things as &#8220;broken&#8221;. Not only does it allow us to think that people can never be inherently bad, but it gives us a sense of control. If we can just &#8220;fix&#8221; them, they&#8217;ll be good, or if we can stop the cycle of abuse&#8230;  right?</p>
<p>The use of pop-pedagogy is another example of good intentions and values getting in the way of reason. If you doubt that pseudoscience in education is a serious problem, attend a back-to-school night or just visit some education websites and count the number of references to &#8220;Learning Styles&#8221;, &#8220;Multiple Intelligences&#8221;, &#8220;Emotional Intelligence&#8221;, or &#8220;Bloom&#8217;s Taxonomy&#8221;. Then visit the education department of any university and discover why. Instead of teaching from the academic literature, they are teaching from textbooks with content drawn from popular press. Teachers adopt these ideas because they <em>seem</em> right and they address good values &#8211; the idea that every child is equally intelligent, just in different areas, the idea that all children are capable of learning everything that every other child can learn; they just learn &#8220;differently&#8221;. Experiences easily reinforce the ideas through the confirmation bias. (Caveat: &#8220;Bloom&#8217;s Taxonomy&#8221; is supported, but it is descriptive. The suggestion that drawing from all levels of taxonomy in teaching or assessment is unsupported.)</p>
<p>When we allow our good intentions to pave the road, it doesn&#8217;t lead to truth. Yes, we should be motivated by our values. We should consider our values when setting general goals. However, in order to reach the goals we claim to care about, in order to achieve the things we claim to value, we must separate those values from the work. We must not allow those values to enter into our decision-making processes.</p>
<p>In an effort to get to the bottom line in under 4,500 words, I&#8217;ll end with another quote from D.J. Grothe and a new, more direct reply:</p>
<blockquote><p>I argue that the work of skepticism should not be divorced from our ethical imperative or &#8220;righteous indignation&#8221; to mitigate the harm that undue credulity causes. I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re saying this.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, yes, actually (if you replace &#8220;divorced&#8221; with &#8220;separated&#8221;) I think I am.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Workshop: Skepticism in the Classroom First I would like to thank those who attended our workshop at The Amaz!ng Meeting 9 for your patience as we recover from the meeting and organize our thoughts. I have created a permanent page (under &#8220;Resources&#8221;) where you can access the materials we promised. Some of the things you [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="pf-content"><h3>Workshop: Skepticism in the Classroom</h3>
<p><div id="attachment_936" style="width: 260px" class="wp-caption alignright"><img src="http://icbseverywhere.com/blog/wp-content/media/2011/07/TAM9Matt_DeanBaird1-250x174.jpg" alt="Matt engages the audience. Photo by Dean Baird (minor retouching and cropping by me)" title="TAM9Matt_DeanBaird" width="250" height="174" class="size-medium wp-image-936" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Matt engages the audience. Photo by Dean Baird (minor retouching and cropping by me)</p></div>First I would like to thank those who attended our workshop at <a href="http://www.amazingmeeting.com/">The Amaz!ng Meeting 9</a> for your patience as we recover from the meeting and organize our thoughts. I have created a <a href="http://icbseverywhere.com/blog/resources/tam9-education-workshop/">permanent page</a> (under &#8220;Resources&#8221;) where you can access the materials we promised. Some of the things you will find are videos of <a href="http://skepticalteacher.wordpress.com/">Skeptical Teacher</a>, Matt Lowry&#8217;s Self-Tying Knot trick its solution, a few exercises Matt has developed, my presentation with additional slides to provide notes and explanations (both embedded and in downloadable PDF), and links to purchase the books that I recommended.</p>
<p>Matt recapped the most important concepts from his piece last year and presented more of his fun and interesting demonstrations. I used to think that cognitive psychologists had all of the fun because we study the interesting ways that our brains and minds fool us and can blow those minds by showing them. However, after some thought I realized that the physics teachers I know have the coolest, scariest, ickiest, and most surprising demonstrations. They deal with the physical world and there are almost as many bizarre things in the physical world as there are in the mind. <div id="attachment_933" style="width: 260px" class="wp-caption alignright"><img src="http://icbseverywhere.com/blog/wp-content/media/2011/07/TAM9Me_DeanBaird2-250x198.jpg" alt="" title="TAM9Me_DeanBaird" width="250" height="198" class="size-medium wp-image-933" /><p class="wp-caption-text">No, I do not remember what I was saying when I made this face. Photo by Dean Baird (minor retouching and cropping by me)</p></div>Matt did not walk on fire or lie on a bed of nails, but he has done those things and has the video to prove it! What he did do is show the audience that getting your hands dirty can be a great way to reach minds. </p>
<p>I was a bit nervous about this workshop because some of the material I presented is very different from my usual &#8220;Oew&#8221; and &#8220;Ah&#8221; and &#8220;aHA!&#8221; stuff. In addition, its connection to promoting skepticism is distant, at least on the surface. The title of my presentation was <em>Deep Thoughts: Facilitating Critical Thinking at All Ages</em>. In teaching critical thinking, the age of the student is extremely important in determining methods and focus. For adults, the biggest roadblock to critical thinking is overconfidence. This is just a nice way of saying &#8220;arrogance&#8221; or &#8220;closed-mindedness&#8221;. The irony is that we humans are so overconfident that we think the term applies to other people and not ourselves.</p>
<p>For young children, there are few roadblocks. What we should focus on is guiding cognitive development in a way that minimizes overconfidence. In my opinion, the best way to do this is to encourage the practice of consideration and deep thinking. This, I suggest, is accomplished through discussion of philosophical questions. </p>
<p>I have yet to read a review of the workshop. However, the immediate feedback I received was very positive and I heard my words flowing from the mouths of others all weekend, including on the stage. It is entirely possible that others have been thinking about the same issues, but I choose to take it as evidence that my ideas were discussed and found worthy of some consideration. </p>
<h3>A Short TAM9 Review</h3>
<p>Unfortunately, I was still tweaking my workshop presentation and was unable to attend the other workshops. I caught only some of the activism workshop &#8211; the one I needed the most &#8211; but luckily there is a wonderful <a href="http://ohioskeptic.com/grassrootsskeptics/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Activism_Campaign_Manual_2011-07-14.pdf">manual</a> available which was produced by <a href="http://www.skepticallyspeaking.com">Desiree Schell</a> and <a href="http://skepchick.org">Maria Walters</a>. Last year&#8217;s reception, which kicks off the official meeting on Thursday night, featured music and live interviews. This seemed to defeat the &#8216;meet and greet&#8217; purpose of most attendees. The reception this year returned to the usual format of conversation, but there were so many people that it was difficult to find anyone. Friday morning JREF president D.J. Grothe announced the final headcount. Attendees, organizers, and presenters at <em>TAM9 From Outer Space</em> totaled 1652, approximately 300 more people than last year, which was 200 more than the year before. </p>
<p>In general, the long list of speakers booked for this year included the most inspiring scientists and science communicators in the skeptical community. The original keynote speaker, Astrophysicist <a href="http://www.haydenplanetarium.org/tyson/">Neil deGrasse Tyson</a>, is a personal hero of mine. His talk repeated much of what he covered in his very long and satisfying TAM6 talk, but I never tire of the material or his presentation style. Unfortunately, the other keynote speech, delivered by <a href="http://richarddawkins.net/">Richard Dawkins</a>, was as boring (to me, anyway) as Tyson&#8217;s was entertaining. I have never found Dawkins to be a dynamic speaker, but this was particularly snore-worthy. He chose to spend much of his time <em>describing</em> his soon-to-be-released children&#8217;s book rather than discussing anything of note. Likewise, I find <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/">PZ Myers&#8217;</a> style a little bit dull, but I usually enjoy his talks simply because he chooses to talk about some of the most interesting topics. This year is no exception. His was one of the few talks that I missed, but I am looking forward to his discussion of alien anatomy when the JREF posts video of his talk (they committed to making all of the content available online).</p>
<p>Every other talk (not including the Sunday Paper Session, which varied in quality) was fantastic.</p>
<p>Some of the highlights for me:</p>
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<li><a href="http://tavris.socialpsychology.org/">Carol Tavris</a> delivered a speech about reducing cognitive dissonance by first considering the target&#8217;s vantage point (i.e., empathy). <strong>This was probably the best speech I have ever heard, and I have heard a LOT of speeches and talks. </strong></li>
<div id="attachment_941" style="width: 260px" class="wp-caption alignright"><img src="http://icbseverywhere.com/blog/wp-content/media/2011/07/TAM9DylanSabrinaMe_DanielLoxton-250x167.jpg" alt="" title="TAM9DylanSabrinaMe_DanielLoxton" width="250" height="167" class="size-medium wp-image-941" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Dylan Keenberg, Sabrina Gibson, and me Photo by Daniel Loxton (minor touch-ups and adjustments by me)</p></div>
<li>Dylan Keenberg, a former student and <a href="http://icbseverywhere.com/blog/2010/06/ignorance-of-incompetenc/">collaborator</a> of mine, delivered a wonderful Sunday talk describing one method for talking to others (Rogerian argumentation) which is highly likely to reduce both cognitive dissonance and misunderstandings. The most important aspect of this method is, once again, empathy. In order to more than simply fake empathy, though, one must be open to the possibility that one&#8217;s current understanding is wrong. My informal polling of TAM9 speakers and other community leaders tells me that I am justified in feeling extremely proud.<br />
<div id="attachment_942" style="width: 260px" class="wp-caption alignright"><img src="http://icbseverywhere.com/blog/wp-content/media/2011/07/TAM9DanielDylan_DylanKeenberg-250x187.jpg" alt="Dylan Keenberg and Daniel Loxton Photo by Sabrina Gibson (minor touch-ups and cropping by me)" title="TAM9DanielDylan_DylanKeenberg" width="250" height="187" class="size-medium wp-image-942" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Dylan Keenberg and Daniel Loxton Photo by Sabrina Gibson (minor touch-ups and cropping by me)</p></div></p>
<p><a href="http://skepticblog.org/2011/07/19/thoughts-on-the-amazing-meeting-9/">Daniel Loxton&#8217;s discussion</a> of these two talks (Tavris&#8217;s and Keenberg&#8217;s) as well as the two which specifically addressed activism (one by JREF Communications <a href="http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/staff.html">Sadie Crabtree</a> and the other by union organizer and radio host Desiree Schell) is much more thoughtful, thorough, and interesting than what I could write at the moment. </li>
<li>Daniel also wrote <a href="http://skepticblog.org/2011/07/22/surprising-twists/">about the panel to discuss diversity</a>. In a nutshell, the discussion was quite a mess for the first half, but the more they discussed the more each clarified, and in some cases, changed their views until they settled on a middle ground that I think all could embrace. Essentially, they agreed that applying skepticism to a more diverse set of problems/questions/domains would result in a more diverse community without compromising the integrity of skepticism as a movement. Political, moral, and social ideology are &#8216;outside the scope&#8217; of skepticism because they remove objectivity. In addition, untestable claims (e.g., &#8220;Does God exist?&#8221;) are off-limits because they cannot be addressed scientifically.
<p>I am always thrilled to hear D.J. speak about such things from a stage because he tends to be clear, firm, and directly on-message. Last year, for example, he made a point of asking nearly every speaker to clearly define the scope of their organization and each answered with some form of &#8220;scientific skepticism&#8221;. This year, he elaborated on this by noting that he strives for a diversity of religious views. </p>
<p>However, I did not leave TAM9 with the optimism that Daniel Loxton left with.  One reason for this was that D.J. made those statements while discussing &#8220;Diversity in Skepticism&#8221; with Debbie Goddard, Greta Christina, Jamila Bey, and Hemant Mehta. Debbie Goddard is the campus outreach director for <a href="http://www.centerforinquiry.net/oncampus/">CFI</a>, a secular organization with a branch devoted to skepticism (<a href="http://www.centerforinquiry.net/about/committee_for_skeptical_inquiry/">CSI</a>).  The panel&#8217;s moderator, Desiree Schell, is firmly rooted in the skeptical community as the host of <a href="http://skepticallyspeaking.ca/"><em>Skeptically Speaking</em></a> and an occasional blogger on <a href="http://www.skepticnorth.com/"><em>Skeptic North</em></a>. The other three panelists are closely identified with atheism and, in my opinion, have contributed little, if anything, to skepticism itself.  I kept wondering who this &#8220;we&#8221; was in the discussion (e.g., &#8220;We could offer&#8230;&#8221;). </p>
<p>The conflation of atheism and skepticism is a very serious problem with dire consequences. The most important of these is the degradation of the integrity of skepticism itself. The scientific method only works when scientists are open to interpreting any result objectively &#8211; to consider all evidence with an open mind and to hold all conclusions tentatively. The conclusion that there is no God cannot be arrived at empirically, so it cannot be &#8220;the result of properly-applied skepticism&#8221; as some claim. I am very worried about this trend to conflate these two for several reasons, including the manner in which the majority of atheists talk to and about the faithful.</li>
<li>Bill Nye&#8217;s talk was condensed from the longer talk he gave at the <a href="http://www.skeptic.com/lectures/conferences/past.html">Skeptic Society&#8217;s Science Symposium</a> last month. In his position as the executive director of <a href="http://www.planetary.org/home/">The Planetary Society</a> he is concerned with science education and the consequences of failing in this area. For this reason, he is another hero to me.</li>
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<li>The panel discussion of the future of space exploration was almost as lively as the diversity panel would be two days later. Most notably, Neil deGrasse Tyson&#8217;s verbal sparring with Lawrence Krauss left Bill Nye and moderator Phil Plait with little room to get a word in. However, Pamela Gay managed to do so by literally <em>shushing</em> Tyson &#8211; three times! For that, if not for the plea during her solo talk for all in the audience to be activists for education, made her another hero. Phil&#8217;s talk last year still rings in my years, so the odd man out on that panel &#8211; Lawrence Krauss &#8211; was the only one on the stage that I would not walk a few miles, breaking a path in the snow, to hear speak.</li>
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<li>Speaking of heroes, there were two announcements at TAM9 which deserve to be noted. One was that The Richard Dawkins Foundation has committed to fund child care at meetings and conferences like TAM. The other involves everyone&#8217;s hero, Genie Scott. At the end of a talk in which she described the parallels between evolution denial and AGW denial (described and discussed in <a href="http://skepticblog.org/2011/07/20/a-consilience-of-ideas/">a great post by Donald Prothero</a>), she announced that the <a href="http://ncse.com/">NCSE</a> is beginning an initiative to fight climate change denial in public education. </li>
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<li>Finally, two Jennifers, <a href="http://www.jennifermichaelhecht.com/">Jennifer Michael Hecht</a> and <a href="http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cocktail-party-physics/">Jennifer Ouellette</a>, merged poetry and popular culture with skepticism and science, respectively, in the most uplifting and inspiring ways. Hecht condensed a normally hour-long history of doubt into half an hour by speaking quickly, but this only enhanced the talk. Jennifer held a cultural mirror up to science and space exploration, showing clips and images from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Trip_to_the_Moon">A Trip to the Moon</a> to <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/dw">Doctor Who</a> and beyond. These were as, if not more, intellectually fulfilling as the talks given by the psychologists (okay, I&#8217;m biased) and neurologists (Elizabeth Loftus, Richard Wiseman, Susana Martinez-Conde, and Stephen Macknik all spoke). Wiseman even introduced me to a new favorite &#8216;suggested lyrics&#8217; video, so I think that I will leave you with that.</li>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dragon*Con is now just over three weeks away and the schedule is as solid as these things get, so I&#8217;m giving you the highlights as promised. I will be one BUSY Skeptic! [Edit: By the way, Dragon*Con will take place over Labor Day weekend, September 3rd through 6th.] For those who have not heard of [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://www.dragoncon.org/">Dragon*Con</a> is now just over three weeks away and the schedule is as solid as these things get, so I&#8217;m giving you the highlights as promised. I will be one BUSY Skeptic!  [Edit: By the way, Dragon*Con will take place over Labor Day weekend, September 3rd through 6th.]</p>
<p>For those who have not heard of it, Dragon*Con an enormous SciFi/Fantasy convention held in Atlanta over Labor Day weekend. <a href="http://www.skeptrack.org/">Skeptrack</a>, the skeptic fan track, is the brainchild of Derek Colonduno and Robynn McCarthy (A.K.A., &#8220;Swoopy&#8221;), hosts of <a href="http://www.skepticality.com">Skepticality</a>. As usual, they work their butts off and many skepticism activists do their best to make that work count by participating in talks and panels designed to spread the critical thinking bug to geeks everywhere.</p>
<p>Dragon*Con is very different from conventions like <a href="http://www.randi.org">The Amaz!ng Meeting</a>, and not just the costumes. TAM is, at heart, a Dog-and-Pony-Show for skepticism. At Dragon*Con activists do the work of activism and education. There are a number of fan tracks, including a <a href="http://www.dragon-pod.com/">Podcasting Track</a> directed by Swoopy, and <a href="http://madscientist.org.uk/index.html">Space &#038; Science Tracks</a>, who work closely with Derek and Swoopy. In addition to the obvious <em>Star Wars Track</em>, <em>Trek Track</em>, and <em>Whedonverse Track</em>, there are literature, costuming, and writing tracks. There are also two tracks related to Skeptrack: <em><a href="http://paranormal.dragoncon.org/">Paranormal Track</a></em> and <em><a href="http://xtrack.dragoncon.org/">X Track</a></em>.</p>
<p>The former is self-explanatory, I hope, and this year I will be attending a workshop on that track by <a href="http://www.radfordbooks.com/">Ben Radford</a> on investigating the paranormal (details below). I am very interested in the methods used for this kind of thing as they differ a great deal from the kind of work that I do. </p>
<p>Last year most of Skeptrack was streamed live, but there were some problems. I believe they will try this again this year with, hopefully, fewer headaches. If so, I will provide a link on Facebook and Twitter as soon as it is available, which might be as late as the first day. </p>
<p>If you are attending or planning to stream it live, here is where and when you can find me:</p>
<p><big><strong>Skepticism, Scams, &#038; Consumerism</strong></big>: Ranging from psychology behind sales to consumer rights, we discuss how as skeptics we identify and challenge dodgy products and pseudosciences.<br />
<strong>Time:</strong> Friday 2:30pm &#8211; 3:30pm<br />
<strong>Location:</strong> Hilton 205/206/207 <br />
<em>I will be moderating this panel and talking about the psychology of purchasing behavior. Panelists include Matt Lowry, Rachael Dunlop, Richard Saunders, &#038; Tom Merritt.</em></p>
<p><big><strong>The Calculus Diaries &#8211; Lose Weight, Win in Vegas, Survive a Zombie Apocalypse</strong></big>: Fun examples of math applications in the real world and why it&#8217;s important to understand even just the basic concepts.<br />
<strong>Time:</strong> Friday 5:30pm &#8211; 6:30pm<br />
<strong>Location:</strong> Hilton 202 <br />
<em>This panel is on the Science Track and will mostly be the work of Jennifer Ouellette, whose <a href="<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0143117378?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=woofigh-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325&#038;creativeASIN=0143117378">book with that title</a> will be released August 1st, just in time for me to read it on the plane. As a statistician, I hope I can contribute something worthwhile to the discussion. </em></p>
<p><big><strong>How Your Brain Works, and How to Fool It</strong></big>: Our perception of reality is driven more by expectation, belief, and desire than by sensory input. An examination of how we fool ourselves.<br />
<strong>Time:</strong> Friday 8:30pm &#8211; 9:30pm<br />
<strong>Location:</strong> Hilton 202 <br />
<em><strong>NOTE</strong>: This is not the original title and I think it is a little misleading. The original title was &#8220;What You See Is [not always] What You Get (or WYSInaWYG)&#8221;. The topic is not about how to fool your brain, but how your brain fools you. I believe Jason Schneiderman plans to join me and would be a welcome addition.</em></p>
<p><big><strong>Skepticism and Sexuality</strong></big>: When do we get skeptical about sex, the media? When alien cults want to save African clitorises, this panel is here to discuss the facts.<br />
<strong>Time:</strong> Friday 10:00pm &#8211; 11:00pm<br />
<strong>Location:</strong> Hilton 205/206/207 <br />
<em>I will bring with me some of the most interesting myths about the psychology of sex, courtesy of my friend a colleague who teaches the best course on the topic evah. My fellow panelists include Heidi Anderson, Ben Radford, Kylie Sturgess, &#038; Ginger Campbell. Desiree Schell will moderate.</em></p>
<p><big><strong>Naturally Skeptical? The Psychology Behind Being a Skeptic</strong></big>: A round table discussion on the factors that do (and don&#8217;t!) contribute to becoming a questioner of the paranormal and pseudoscientific.<br />
<strong>Time:</strong> Saturday 10:00am &#8211; 11:00am<br />
<strong>Location:</strong> Hilton 205/206/207 <br />
<em>I will once again take the reigns as moderator and lead a discussion of the psychology of critical thinking and open-mindedness. I am very pleased that Scott Lilienfeld has decided to join us. He has written quite a bit about pseudoscience in our field, including his latest collaboration, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1405131128?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=woofigh-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325&#038;creativeASIN=1405131128">50 Great Myths of Popular Psychology: Shattering Widespread Misconceptions about Human Behavior</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=woofigh-20&#038;l=as2&#038;o=1&#038;a=1405131128" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" />. Other panelists, who are not exactly chopped liver themselves, include D.J. Grothe, Matt Lowry, Kylie Sturgess, &#038; Pamela Gay.</em></p>
<p><big><strong>Mathematical Modeling Pitfalls</strong></big>: Model don’t always accurately reflect messy reality, particularly where human behavior is concerned. Algorithms can only mimic human behavior, and there is a lot of room for bias and error as a result.<br />
<strong>Time:</strong> Sunday 11:30am &#8211; 12:30pm<br />
<strong>Location:</strong> Hilton 205/206/207 <br />
<em>I am not actually on the schedule for this, but Jennifer Ouellete invited me to contribute when I mentioned my love-hate relationship with modeling and my frustrations in teaching that models are not what they model. If I get it together in time, I will present what I think is a cool visual of what you can do with a simple model that shows how they can be effective science. Well, I think it&#8217;s cool, anyway!</em></p>
<p><big><strong>Raising Skeptical Geeks</strong></big>: A few known skeptical parents talk about issues and how they a raising their kids to be better rational thinkers.<br />
<strong>Time:</strong> Sunday 2:30pm &#8211; 3:30pm<br />
<strong>Location:</strong> Hilton Crystal Ballroom <br />
<em>This is sure to be the highlight of my Dragon*Con experiences as I love to talk about my kids. I am collecting stories and funny quotes to share. I am also thrilled that fellow panelists will be three good friends and one of the geekiest dads (by all appearances) around: Daniel Loxton, Heidi Anderson, Desiree Schell, &#038; Adam Savage.</em></p>
<p><big><strong>Skepticism and Education</strong></big>: JREF now has a Director of Educational Programs &#8211; what else is being done out there and how can skeptics help educate the next generation?<br />
<strong>Time:</strong> Sunday 4:00pm &#8211; 5:00pm<br />
<strong>Location:</strong> Hilton 205/206/207 <br />
<em>Of course this is on my list of favorites as well as one of the most important of the panels on which I will serve. Other panelists include D.J. Grothe, Michael Blanford, Daniel Loxton, Pamela Gay, &#038; Matt Lowry. Kylie Sturgess will moderate.</em></p>
<p><big><strong>Women: Myths, Feminism And Skepticism</strong></big>: Puzzled by feminine mystique? Searching for your &#8216;Inner Velma&#8217;? Join investigators on gender, pop-culture and what science REALLY tells us!<br />
<strong>Time:</strong> Monday 2:30pm &#8211; 3:30pm<br />
<strong>Location:</strong> Hilton 205/206/207 <br />
<em>Oh, so many myths, so little time! This topic is rich and Heidi Anderson, Desiree Schell, Pamela Gay, Kylie Sturgess, and myself are looking forward to a fact-packed dicussion. </em></p>
<p><big><strong>Skeptrack Sign-Off Wrap Up and Feedback</strong></big>: Join the skeptrack guests and speakers for a discussion about how things went, last minute news, and how we can make things better next year!<br />
<strong>Time:</strong> Monday 4:00pm &#8211; 5:00pm<br />
<strong>Location:</strong> Hilton 205/206/207 <br />
<em>Unfortunately, I will not make this discussion and also make my flight home. I am sure, though, that there will be much greatness in the room.</em></p>
<p>That wraps up my obligations. Here are just a few the events I am looking forward to attending as an audience member (if possible &#8211; the * indicates an event I cannot attend due to a scheduling conflict, but recommend): </p>
<p><big>CSI: Paranormal</big><br />
Time:<em> Friday 1:00pm &#8211; 2:00pm</em><br />
Location:<em> Hilton 205/206/207 </em><br />
Presenters/Panel Members:<em> Joe Nickell</em></p>
<p><big>*Skeptically Speaking Live!</big><br />
Time:<em> Friday 8:30pm &#8211; 9:30pm</em><br />
Location:<em> Hilton 205/206/207 </em><br />
Presenters/Panel Members:<em> Desiree Schell</em></p>
<p><big>Skeptical Coffee Talk</big><br />
Time:<em> Saturday 8:30am &#8211; 9:30am</em><br />
Location:<em> Hilton 205/206/207 </em><br />
Presenters/Panel Members:<em> James Randi, D.J. Grothe, &#038; Joe Nickell</em></p>
<p><big>Paranormal Investigation Workshop</big><br />
Time:<em> Saturday 1:00pm &#8211; 3:30pm</em><br />
Location:<em> Sheraton </em><br />
Presenters/Panel Members:<em> Ben Radford</em></p>
<p><big>*I Very Much Doubt That!</big><br />
Time:<em> Saturday 1:00pm &#8211; 2:00pm</em><br />
Location:<em> Hilton Crystal Ballroom</em><br />
Presenters/Panel Members:<em> James Randi</em></p>
<p><big>*Mystery Investigators Children’s Show</big><br />
Time:<em> Saturday 2:30pm &#8211; 3:30pm</em><br />
Location:<em> Hilton 205/206/207</em> <br />
Presenters/Panel Members:<em> Richard Saunders &#038; Rachael Dunlop</em></p>
<p><big>Monster Talk Podcast Live</big><br />
Time:<em> Saturday 4:00pm &#8211; 5:00pm</em><br />
Location:<em> Hilton 205/206/207 </em><br />
Presenters/Panel Members:<em> Blake Smith &#038; Ben Radford</em></p>
<p><big>Skeptic Zone Live!</big><br />
Time:<em> Sunday 7:00pm &#8211; 8:00pm</em><br />
Location:<em> Hilton 205/206/207 </em><br />
Presenters/Panel Members:<em> Richard Saunders, Rachael Dunlop, Kylie Sturgess, &#038; Brian Brushwood</em></p>
<p><big>Skepticism 2.0: Blogging</big><br />
Time:<em> Monday 11:30am &#8211; 12:30pm</em><br />
Location:<em> Hilton 205/206/207 </em><br />
Presenters/Panel Members:<em> Daniel Loxton, Rebecca Watson, Brian Dunning, Rachael Dunlop, &#038; Kylie Sturgess</em></p>
<p><big>Martial Arts Mysticism</big><br />
Time:<em> Monday 1:00pm &#8211; 2:00pm</em><br />
Location:<em> Hilton 205/206/207</em><br />
Presenters/Panel Members: <em>John Clements</em></p>
<p>You can find the full schedules as they become available on the track websites. I hope to see you there!</p>
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