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		<title>Take Back Skepticism, Part III: The Dunning-Kruger Effect</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[First, if you have not read Parts I and II, please read them now. The most important parts of those posts are: Arguments over scope and the conflation of atheism and skepticism have reached a fever pitch, as have arguments over tone. I will talk about some of this, but I will not attempt to [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="pf-content"><p>First, if you have not read <a href="http://icbseverywhere.com/blog/2011/08/take-back-skepticism-part-i-the-elephant-in-the-room/">Parts I</a> and <a href="http://icbseverywhere.com/blog/2011/08/take-back-skepticism-part-ii-the-overkill-window/">II</a>, please read them now. The most important parts of those posts are:</p>
<blockquote><p>Arguments over scope and the conflation of atheism and skepticism have reached a fever pitch, as have arguments over tone. I will talk about some of this, but I will not attempt to explain all of the issues in any detail because everything that needs to be said has been said <a href="http://skepticblog.org/2010/09/10/further-thoughts-on-the-ethics-of-skepticism/">here</a> and <a href="http://atheistethicist.blogspot.com/2010/08/phil-plaits-dont-be-dick-speech.html">here</a> and <a href="http://indieskeptics.com/2010/10/14/taking-pride-in-ones-brand/">here</a> and <a href="http://podblack.com/2010/11/the-conflation-of-skepticism-and-atheism-fact-or-fiction/">here</a> and <a href="http://skepticblog.org/2011/06/21/a-prehistory-of-dbad/">here</a> and <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/tfk/2010/07/dont_be_a_dick.php">here</a> and <a href="http://skepticblog.org/2010/07/02/science-of-honey-and-vinegar/">here</a> and <a href="http://indieskeptics.com/2010/11/16/are-atheists-delusional-thoughts-on-skepticon3/">here</a> and <a href="http://hw.libsyn.com/p/9/d/c/9dca2b35d80d4b66/loxton.mp3?sid=eeb9de2b8e61afe973f36ff8d2645693&amp;l_sid=19147&amp;l_eid=&amp;l_mid=1792650">here</a>… Well, you get the picture. In fact, if you want to argue the definition of skepticism or Skepticism* in the comments of this post, don&#8217;t bother. Instead, read <a href="http://icbseverywhere.com/blog/2010/04/scientific-skepticism-a-tutorial/">what I wrote</a> about it last year, which I would simply repeat in answer…</p>
<p>…I suggest is this: Skepticism*, as a movement, is not hindered so much by the conflation of atheism and skepticism, the ridicule of believers, or attempts to promote values-based ideology as it is hindered by the blatant ignorance, arrogance, and irrationality displayed when those acts are committed.</p>
<p>In a field dedicated to reducing ignorance and irrationality, a field in which arrogance is toxic, I find this kind of behavior offensive. It is time that we reclaim Skepticism and restore its credibility and integrity.</p>
<p>If one of the major goals of Skepticism is to educate, shouldn&#8217;t we all understand the material?</p></blockquote>
<p>I am angry. I am angry and a little fearful for our future. We live in dangerous times and the work of Skepticism is serious. The work is hard. It requires patience, discipline, empathy, and knowledge.</p>
<p>I am angry because an influx of people who have stumbled upon or been recruited to the work of Skepticism are making it much more difficult. We&#8217;re moving backwards. This is happening, in part, because some of these rookies insist that their understanding of that work is as good or better than the understanding of people who have studied and worked in the field for years. Many have little or no education in the basics of science or the scientific process. Some claim to follow the teachings of people whose works they have never read. Some believe that the &#8216;old guard&#8217; have more to learn from them than the other way around. These people voice their opinions on blogs and in talks, discussing topics about which they consider themselves competent after reading a couple of blog posts, listening to a podcast, considering their own limited experiences, or MAYBE reading a book or two on the topic.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s worse, they argue about details with little or no understanding of even the big picture. They believe that their understanding is complete and, therefore, requires no study, no thought beyond the surface features, and certainly not time or mentoring.</p>
<p>This is anti intellectualism in a field which promotes intellect and deep thought.</p>
<p>The problem has bothered me for some time and, in fact, ignorance of one&#8217;s own incompetence is something that bothered me in my classroom so much that <a href="http://icbseverywhere.com/blog/2010/06/ignorance-of-incompetenc/">I studied</a> its relationship to academic entitlement, narcissism, external attributions for achievements, and study strategies. What we learned is that narcissism, entitlement, and shallow study strategies are strongly correlated with the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect">Dunning-Kruger Effect</a>, which is the phenomenon that the least competent people overestimate their competence the most as part of a self-serving bias. As relative competence increases, overestimations decrease, until the 75th to 95th percentile (depending on the domain), when estimates are fairly accurate. This is particularly problematic in an academic setting because the less students understand a concept, the more likely they are to <em>believe that they understand it</em>, the less likely they are to make changes to ensure that they learn it, and the more likely they will be to feel entitled to a high grade for their poor work.</p>
<p>Skeptical activism is not unlike academics.  Incompetence feeds on itself in this effect. The more an individual overestimates their competence, the more entitled they believe they are to an uncritical audience to which they can voice their opinions. What&#8217;s more, the more <em>confident</em> a blogger appears, the more their audience will reinforce their views (because they convince the audience that they know; the same thing occurs with eye witness testimony), although this is somewhat limited to situations in which the view is shallow enough to for the audience to understand, a perfect enhancement to the Dunning-Kruger Effect.</p>
<p>But high confidence is not an indication of actual understanding, nor is the number of supportive cheers of agreement from their followers.</p>
<p>The rest of this post will focus on one example of this, but there have been countless. This particular example is an especially egregious one, since she attacked both a friend for whom I have a great deal of respect and the field I defend daily. It was back-breaking straw for me.</p>
<p>When <a href=" http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/diversity_skepticism_and_atheism">Amanda Marcotte </a>whined that Daniel Loxton doesn&#8217;t want us to talk about religion, she built a now very familiar straw man and dressed him with inappropriate comparisons and other ignorant rambles. She appears to be upset because she somehow thinks that the usurping of a movement in motion, one which is founded on scientific principles, for the promotion of her personal political and religious ideology, should go unchallenged.</p>
<p>Amanda does not appear to understand what skepticism actually <em>is </em>or what science involves, yet she&#8217;s thrown her hat in, anyway. Perhaps she is insulted that somebody tried to tell her, I really don&#8217;t know, but I do know that the confidence with which she writes about the issues is unwarranted, a fact which is clearly demonstrated by the content of her post.</p>
<p>Amanda wrote,</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Look: atheism is the result of applying critical thinking and demands for evidence to the god hypothesis. It&#8217;s not any different than non-belief in all sorts of supernatural claims, such as ESP and ghosts. All of the weaseling around that is intellectually dishonest. It&#8217;s not about critical thinking, but about politics and frankly, not taking on religion because religion is seen as too powerful. &#8220;</p></blockquote>
<p>Wrong.</p>
<p>What is intellectually dishonest is arguing about something you do not fully understand against people who are experts in the field. What is intellectually dishonest is advancing an uneducated opinion because the educated one does not help you achieve your own goals.</p>
<p>Her first two sentences demonstrate the problem with this entire post and most of the comments on it: ignorance. The rest of the paragraph is bullshit that Amanda made up. Nobody is &#8216;backing down&#8217; and there is no concern that &#8220;religion is seen as too powerful&#8221;. This is not about politics. <strong>It is about scientific integrity.  </strong>This point has been made again and again, but ignored by people like  Amanda. Perhaps they ignore it because they do not understand it, or maybe they ignore it because it doesn&#8217;t help them, but the reasons don&#8217;t matter. Ignoring it won&#8217;t make it go away.</p>
<p>Science is the pursuit of truth. Truth is not value. Desires are not facts. Facts are not morals.</p>
<p><strong>Scientific integrity requires adherence to scientific principles. Likewise, scientific skepticism relies on scientific integrity. Otherwise, we are just a bunch of people with opinions.</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>… Loxton decided to shit all over the work of people looking at improving gender, sexual oriention, class, and race diversity in the movement by complaining that the panel at The Amazing Meeting dedicated to this didn&#8217;t have any fucking Christians on it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Again, she&#8217;s just making stuff up. Daniel noted that the diversity of the panel did not reflect the diversity of the audience in one important aspect. Framing this as &#8220;complaining that there were no Christians&#8221; is dishonest and the implication that Daniel does not care about issues of gender, class, and race is simply unfounded and abhorrent. Anyone who actually knows Daniel understands just how stupid that accusation is.</p>
<blockquote><p>He firmly believes that the god hypothesis should be off-limits for skeptics, and that there should be a bright line between atheism and skepticism. This is ridiculous. &#8220;God&#8221; is a supernatural claim just like fairies and ghosts.</p></blockquote>
<p>This statement, once again, not only demonstrates gross ignorance and shallow thinking, but the fact that she&#8217;s written an entire blog post questioning the knowledge of a professional skeptic on very basic definitions of the field <em>without first educating herself</em> is offensive and disrespectful. Had she even tried to understand the issues, a task which takes time and energy, she might have learned enough to at least recognize that she has a lot more to learn.</p>
<p>But I am clearly expecting too much, because Amanda thinks that &#8220;I don&#8217;t get it&#8221; equates to &#8220;It must not be true&#8221; as demonstrated by this parroting of Skeptical sound bites and bullet points, mostly taken out of context or misused (bold mine):</p>
<blockquote><p>The excuse from &#8220;traditional&#8221; skeptics for making an exception for religion is that the god hypothesis is an untestable claim, and they&#8217;re only interested in testable claims. But as this fairy example shows, that&#8217;s not really true. There are plenty of things skeptics are skeptical about because of the preponderance-of-evidence standard. We don&#8217;t believe in ESP or ghosts or fairies because no one has ever produced solid evidence in favor of these things existing, and we combine that with an assumption that these things are highly unlikely and so the burden is on the people making the claims to prove them. <strong>I don&#8217;t see how god is any different.</strong></p>
<p>… Yes, it&#8217;s true that you can&#8217;t test whether or not there is a god somewhere that simply refuses to show himself, but that&#8217;s also true of fairies, people with ESP, and ghosts. And yet it&#8217;s considered a good use of skeptical time to point out the weakness of the ghost/ESP argument. So why not god?&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>She doesn&#8217;t &#8216;see it&#8217;, so it doesn&#8217;t exist. I hate to add to the sound bites when what is needed here is serious coursework, but there are some basic concepts that could help Amanda &#8220;see how&#8221; these things are different, starting with breaking down some of her giant straw man. Here are a few basic points that Amanda should have known before she wrote this post:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Science is <em>empirical</em>, therefore scientific skepticism is <em>empirical</em>.</strong> This is more important than testability, although it is related. NOTE FOR THE RECORD: The concept of testability is watered down somewhat in my posts and comments because it is complicated. For a good discussion of these issues, I recommend Carl Sagan&#8217;s <em>Demon-Haunted World</em>.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><strong>Skeptics do not &#8220;make exceptions&#8221; for religion.</strong> The fact that &#8220;God exists&#8221; is not an empirically testable hypothesis is not the fault of skeptics or Skepticism. It is the nature of the hypothesis. Science and skepticism have nothing to say about <em>any</em> hypothesis which can never be tested empirically.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><strong>Skepticism is not a set of beliefs or conclusions.</strong> This is important. &#8220;We don&#8217;t believe in ESP or ghosts or fairies&#8221; is not something that a good skeptic would say and the &#8216;we&#8217; part is presumptuous. I certainly do not want someone like Amanda Marcotte speaking for me if this what she thinks skepticism is.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><strong>What any Skeptic believes is irrelevant.</strong> Personal knowledge is derived in whatever way the individual chooses to derive it. Science and skepticism deal with <em>shared knowledge.</em> Shared knowledge requires empirical evidence.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>The reason that we can easily discount ESP in most cases is because it is usually easily tested empirically.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><strong>Requiring empirical testability is not &#8220;giving religion a pass&#8221;. It is holding true to the scientific process</strong>, which is designed specifically to ensure that our human biases and personal values do not affect our ability to distinguish what is true from what is not true. Religion&#8217;s most basic claims usually involve an omniscient and omnipotent being, making them largely untestable. This is not at all true of ESP, ghosts, or other traditional topics in skepticism. More on that below.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><strong>A good skeptic would never state that there are no ghosts.</strong> A good skeptic would investigate specific claims of hauntings, searching for natural phenomenon which would explain the evidence. A good skeptic would not say there is no such thing as extrasensory perception. A good skeptic would say that <em>we have no evidence to support</em> precognition, telekinesis, etc.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><strong>Skepticism is not about pointing out the weaknesses of arguments. It is about evaluating the evidence.</strong> These are not even close to being the same. When a self-proclaimed psychic moves the bar and says, &#8220;If it failed the test, then the forces that give me these powers do not want to be seen,&#8221; they make their claim untestable. Skeptics then have nothing to say in response. However, skeptics can provide natural explanations for phenomena (e.g., reveal that <a href="http://youtu.be/M9w7jHYriFo" target="_blank">Peter Popoff</a> was being fed information via an ear piece) which are much more parsimonious than supernatural explanations. This is also what we do with religious claims. If someone claims that God created man as he is today, we can point to the evidence which support the theory of evolution. If they claim that God created the universe, we can point to the evidence for the Big Bang. If they claim that God created the universe and man <em>by making these natural processes possible</em>, well then, we cannot refute that.</li>
</ul>
<p>But Amanda would like to cast out Pamela Gay because Pamela believes in a personal God. Never mind the fact that she has never tried to sell that view to others, that she never claimed to support it with evidence, or that she is a <em>very competent</em> and knowledgeable Skeptic, scientist, science educator, and science communicator. Nevermind that Pamela Gay is a valued member of the Skeptical community who has done more to educate and excite young minds about science than all but a few others. [NOTE: minor edit for clarity, 08/07/11 9:50am]</p>
<p>Pamela Gay is not being <em>ir</em>rational. Amanda Marcotte is.</p>
<p>Marcotte&#8217;s diet example is another case of irrelevant comparison. She states, sarcastically, that people are also touchy about their diet and so expressing skepticism about food trends is probably bad idea, too. This is clearly a straw man. We can demonstrate the effects of gluten empirically, so it is a poor comparison, too. Nobody is saying that people should not express skepticism about the existence of a God. What we are saying is that we <em>cannot</em> demonstrate empirically that God does not exist, therefore, if that is your conclusion,<em> you cannot share that conclusion with others. </em>The difference between personal knowledge and shared knowledge is not trivial.</p>
<p>Making others comfortable is not the issue, either, although making people uncomfortable out of arrogance and ignorance is certainly a part of the issue. I would like to point out that Amanda&#8217;s double-standard is pretty obvious in that paragraph. Apparently, the needs that matter are the needs of those <em>she</em> thinks deserve our attention and that&#8217;s it. But while we&#8217;re on the subject, it doesn&#8217;t matter if you are promoting skepticism, atheism, or your favorite restaurant. Being an asshole is being an asshole. The reason that DBAD matters to the rest of us is that when a dick represents Skepticism, they make our jobs more difficult.</p>
<p>The issue of scope is more complicated than the atheism/skepticism debate. The only reason that religion is given special consideration <em>in the discussions of scope </em>is that there are more people conflating atheism with skepticism than ever before. There are more people acting like superior assholes than ever before. People who could be helped by skeptical outreach as well as people who contribute a great deal to the movement (people like Hal Bidlack, a brilliant, scholarly, honorable man with years of service to the community) have been run off by the relentless arrogance of people like those I have discussed in this series of posts. The ignorant, the arrogant, and the irrational (I&#8217;m picturing monkeys of the &#8216;no evil&#8217; variety, but with interesting facial expressions).</p>
<p>And this problem is growing.</p>
<p>Most of the comments on Amanda&#8217;s post demonstrate a frenzied groupthink that will further convince her that she&#8217;s on the right track. Comment number 41 describes this problem (among others) quite well:<em> &#8220;One cool thing about having a political blog which is allegedly powered by skepticism is that people will be much more tolerant of logical fallacies.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Some of the most fallacious comments:</p>
<blockquote><p>…There’s nothing worse than an agnostic who thinks he’s more logical and skeptical than an openly religious person. Whether you’re an agnostic or a believer you’re engaging in special pleading on the god question, subjecting it to a different standard than any other question of existence, and you are not a skeptic nor are you logical.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;Special pleading&#8221; is a straw man that is repeated often. But it is just that: a straw man.</p>
<blockquote><p>what the hell is skepticism <em>for</em> if not doing away with false beliefs?</p></blockquote>
<p>More ignorance. There is no such thing as a &#8216;false belief&#8217;. Beliefs are simply what you hold to be true. Nobody actually knows for certain what is true. Skepticism is about evaluating evidence, period.</p>
<blockquote><p>H0: There is no god. H1: There is a god. There is a serious shortage of evidence for H1, therefore we must accept the null hypothesis.</p></blockquote>
<p>Introductory statistics cannot address the question of whether or not God exists.</p>
<blockquote><p>If there’s a lack of humanpower and ressources to do everything, the question skeptics organizations should ask themselves is not why they should get involved in the more political aspects of skepticism, but why they should still waste ressources on the trivial, non-political aspects like Bigfoot/UFO/ghost/cryptozoology debunkings and such.</p></blockquote>
<p>Wow. This is very disturbing, and I&#8217;m not just talking about the spelling or misuse of words like &#8220;aspects&#8221;. Apparently many commenters don&#8217;t watch television or get out of the house much. The number of shows devoted to ghost hunting alone is staggering. Then there are the shows about psychics of all ages, animal mind readers, monster hunting, etc. These shows are <em>appearing on channels once devoted to science</em>, for FSM&#8217;s sake. As for why we don&#8217;t get involved in politics, read <a href="http://icbseverywhere.com/blog/2010/04/scientific-skepticism-a-tutorial/">this</a>.</p>
<p>And anyone who is interested in the bigger picture – the picture concerned about meeting the goals of the movement – should read Comment number 75 on Amanda&#8217;s post.</p>
<p>The parroting that atheism is the result of applied skepticism that is so prevalent in the comments and stated in Amanda&#8217;s post is <strong>anti-skeptical</strong>. It demonstrates a failure to understand the fundamental process of skepticism and the empirical nature of science and scientific skepticism. The definitions of science and scientific skepticism were arrived at through centuries of study, collaboration, contemplation, and discussion. They are not negotiable, at least not without agreement from a vast majority of <em><strong>scientists.</strong></em>  If you cannot accept these definitions as they are, you have three choices:</p>
<ol>
<li>Publish your opinions in peer-reviewed journals and hope that philosophers and scientists agree with you.</li>
<li>Keep arguing about it with Skeptics and impede our progress.</li>
<li>Go do something else.</li>
</ol>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>*&#8221;Big-S Skepticism&#8221; refers to the work of the skepticism movement in promoting the practice of skepticism.</p>
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		<title>Take Back Skepticism, Part I: The Elephant in the Room</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was planning a short rant about some ironically irrational arguments made by self-described rationalists at the World Atheist Convention in Dublin a couple of months ago. However, events of the past two weeks have left me frustrated, angry, and a little bit sick. Since they are all connected, I have decided to discuss them [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="pf-content"><p>I was planning a short rant about some ironically irrational arguments made by self-described rationalists at the World Atheist Convention in Dublin a couple of months ago. However, events of the past two weeks have left me frustrated, angry, and a little bit sick. Since they are all connected, I have decided to discuss them together in one long post, broken into three parts for easier reading.</p>
<h4>The Nutshell</h4>
<p>Arguments over scope and the conflation of atheism and skepticism have reached a fever pitch, as have arguments over tone. I will talk about some of this, but I will not attempt to explain all of the issues in any detail because everything that needs to be said has been said <a href=" http://skepticblog.org/2010/09/10/further-thoughts-on-the-ethics-of-skepticism/">here</a> and <a href="http://atheistethicist.blogspot.com/2010/08/phil-plaits-dont-be-dick-speech.html">here</a> and <a href="http://indieskeptics.com/2010/10/14/taking-pride-in-ones-brand/">here</a> and <a href="http://podblack.com/2010/11/the-conflation-of-skepticism-and-atheism-fact-or-fiction/">here</a> and <a href=" http://skepticblog.org/2011/06/21/a-prehistory-of-dbad/">here</a> and <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/tfk/2010/07/dont_be_a_dick.php ">here</a> and <a href="http://skepticblog.org/2010/07/02/science-of-honey-and-vinegar/">here</a> and <a href="http://indieskeptics.com/2010/11/16/are-atheists-delusional-thoughts-on-skepticon3/">here</a> and <a href=" http://hw.libsyn.com/p/9/d/c/9dca2b35d80d4b66/loxton.mp3?sid=eeb9de2b8e61afe973f36ff8d2645693&amp;l_sid=19147&amp;l_eid=&amp;l_mid=1792650">here</a>… Well, you get the picture. In fact, if you want to argue the definition of skepticism or Skepticism* in the comments of this post, don&#8217;t bother. Instead, read <a href="http://icbseverywhere.com/blog/2010/04/scientific-skepticism-a-tutorial/">what I wrote</a> about it last year, which I would simply repeat in answer. It is clear from the comments on these posts that those who need to are not listening and I am rarely in the mood to spin my wheels. Instead, I will try to focus on the main reason these arguments should not be abandoned: it would be bad Skepticism.</p>
<p>In my opinion, the tone and scope arguments dance around a bigger problem and I do not believe that we can afford to ignore the elephants in the room any longer. We should not give people &#8216;a pass&#8217; simply because they claim to be on our side.</p>
<p>In both his <a href=" http://youtu.be/zEP50dxfRAw">TAM6</a> and TAM9 keynote addresses, Neil deGrasse Tyson talked about a letter he wrote to the editor of The New York Times regarding a case in which a teacher was accused of promoting creationist-style anti-science (bold mine):</p>
<blockquote><p>To the Editor:</p>
<p>People cited violation of the First Amendment when a New Jersey schoolteacher asserted that evolution and the Big Bang are not scientific and that Noah&#8217;s ark carried dinosaurs.</p>
<p>This case is not about the need to separate church and state; <strong>it&#8217;s about the need to separate ignorant, scientifically illiterate people from the ranks of teachers</strong>.</p>
<p>Neil deGrasse Tyson<br />
New York, Dec. 19, 2006</p></blockquote>
<p>Similarly, what I suggest is this: Skepticism, as a movement, is not hindered so much by the conflation of atheism and skepticism, the ridicule of believers, or attempts to promote values-based ideology as it is hindered by the blatant ignorance, arrogance, and irrationality displayed when those acts are committed.</p>
<p>In a field dedicated to reducing ignorance and irrationality, a field in which arrogance is toxic, I find this kind of behavior offensive. It is time that we reclaim Skepticism and restore its credibility and integrity.</p>
<h5>A Tiny Bit of Background</h5>
<p>The issues of tone and scope have been <a href="http://skepticblog.org/2011/06/21/a-prehistory-of-dbad/"> widely discussed for years</a>, but Phil Plait&#8217;s now famous <a href="http://vimeo.com/13704095">&#8220;Don&#8217;t be a Dick&#8221; speech </a> at TAM8 has become a centerpiece in the debate over tone and <a href="http://skepticblog.org/2010/08/27/war-over-nice/">Daniel Loxton</a> has become its whipping boy. Daniel also advocates for the limitation of scope for the movement for several reasons. It is the most basic of these limitations that seem to kick up the most dust: empirical claims. It is the dust around religion that I would like to talk about in these posts.</p>
<p>But before I do, let me say this about tone: decades of research tells us that it matters. The next time you read something like, &#8220;Neither method is well-supported&#8221; or &#8220;They can&#8217;t prove that my way doesn&#8217;t work&#8221;, remember that the Discovery Institute still produces propaganda about the <a href="http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/behe.html">irreducible complexity of baterial flagella</a>, despite having been educated about the clear and indisputable counter-evidence repeatedly over the past decade. Then read Tavris &amp; Aronson&#8217;s <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Mistakes-Were-Made-But-Not/dp/0151010986"><em>Mistakes Were Made (But Not By Me)</em></a>.</p>
<p>What the research tells us is that swearing, sarcasm, and ridicule are great ways to rally your followers and gain new followers. This behavior polarizes groupthink, excites, incites, strengthens group cohesion, and promotes &#8216;othering&#8217; of outgroup members. The target of ridicule and sarcasm is extremely likely to polarize as well, adhering more strongly to their beliefs** as those beliefs are threatened. Although direct and non-confrontational criticism of a belief is not likely to change the mind of the believer either, it is a seed with chance to germinate and is less likely to strengthen the belief.</p>
<p>Just so that you don&#8217;t think that I am a hypocrite, I will say right now that have very little hope that the targets of my criticisms in these posts will allow anything to grow; that soil is hostile. Planting seeds is not my goal. Okay, enough background. Let&#8217;s get back to the point:</p>
<p><strong><em>Skepticism 2.x has been costly.</em></strong></p>
<p>It is unclear when the tide turned, but at some point the expansion of skepticism as a movement began to get ugly. With &#8220;Skepticism 2.0&#8243;, the rise of wonderful and creative independent and grassroots efforts made possible by technology, came a wave of fresh new voices. Unfortunately, this has coincided with changes in culture and education practices which seem to be rooted in the United States, but are spreading beyond our borders very quickly &#8211; practices which reinforce shallow thinking when it is accompanied by overconfidence. The result is that too many of the new voices are – to borrow wording from <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/">Greg Laden</a> &#8211; speaking out of their nether regions.</p>
<p>One factor is that self-identified skeptics in general do not seem to be much more rational than the general public. Intelligence is not enough. A rational person is one who has two things:</p>
<ol>
<li>the tools (knowledge and intelligence) to reason well in a given situation.</li>
<li>open-mindedness and flexibility of thought; the ability to consider that their current knowledge might be wrong.</li>
</ol>
<p>Without both of these characteristics, individuals resolve cognitive dissonance in all manner of ways except the rational way, which is to alter their current knowledge to accommodate new evidence. I do not believe that anyone has done the research, but it makes sense that self-described skeptics and atheists have more of the first characteristic than the general public. Atheism is correlated with education and IQ; it seems reasonable that skepticism would be as well. However, I have seen little evidence that, beyond many successful professional skeptics and scientists, they are any more open-minded or flexible than the general public. In fact, I would not be surprised to find that the opposite is generally true. And although there is &#8220;generational&#8221; component to this phenomenon, some of the most stubborn people that I have seen in the Q &amp; A sessions at meetings, shouting that &#8220;some people are JUST WRONG!!&#8221; and putting people into two categories: atheists and irrational people, were middle-aged white men.</p>
<p>The behaviors which, in my opinion, are the most troublesome, are:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>conflating atheism with skepticism.</strong> This goes beyond the old arguments about testability and method vs. conclusion. In recent years, I have see these terms used interchangeably far too often. More and more speakers at major conferences (like TAM) have little connection with Skepticism and more atheism-laden conferences are adopting names and promotional language which suggests that the meeting is about Skepticism. I suspect that the overlap of &#8216;members&#8217; of the atheism and skepticism movements is at the root of this.</li>
<li><strong>calling for social change related to political ideology or other values.</strong> Attempts by <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-shermer/the-case-for-libertariani_b_258500.html">Michael Shermer</a> and Sam Harris to promote their values were at least attempts to provide scientific support for those values. More recently Shermer publicly acknowledged (during the climate change panel at TAM8) that political values are outside the scope of Skepticism. However, there remain a large number of Skeptics who continue to argue for the promotion of &#8216;progressive values&#8217; and Liberal ideology in the name of Skepticism.</li>
<li><strong>insisting that offending and ridiculing believers is an effective means of outreach.</strong></li>
</ul>
<p>These behaviors are troublesome because they impair us in various ways. The impairments are severe enough to see daily if one is on the front lines of grassroots work. For example, recruiting students to my campus club was easy. Retaining them was not. Several of my students abandoned the work they&#8217;d begun after encounters with other &#8216;skeptics&#8217; at meetings and online. This happened with students whose beliefs can be described as agnostic and atheist; imagine if any of my recruits were Christians.</p>
<p>Even more troublesome than these behaviors is the uneducated groupthink that arises from these behaviors. By &#8216;uneducated&#8217; I mean <a href="http://icbseverywhere.com/blog/2010/04/scientific-skepticism-a-tutorial/">incorrect</a>. Or so far afield that it&#8217;s &#8216;not even wrong&#8217;. This ignorance (and refusal to learn) is another very influential factor. If one of the major goals of Skepticism is to educate, shouldn&#8217;t we all understand the material?</p>
<p>Arrogance and ignorance, along with some shallow thinking, need only a cause to produce mob behavior. Opinions become stronger, more polarized, and more emotionally-laden they are spewed by overconfident people with an audience. When groupthink grows, hate often grows with it.</p>
<p>There is a very large overlap in the make-up of atheist and skeptic communities. My Facebook friends list is full of people whom I suspect sent requests only because I am an atheist. Despite little interest in atheism or religion, I once supported atheism-related activism. I continue to be a die-hard supporter of secularism. However, I will think twice before supporting any endeavor with the label &#8216;atheism&#8217; in the future. In my opinion, the current climate of the atheist movement is making the work of Skepticism much more difficult. It has become, in my opinion, a septic tank of arrogance and hate.</p>
<p>For example, when reports spread that the man suspected of killing more than 90 people in Norway was a Christian, I read comment after hate-filled comment on Facebook and Google+ calling for the annihilation of Christians. Comments which claimed that Breivik was mentally ill were quickly attacked under the straw man that mental illness somehow absolves him of responsibility. I don&#8217;t happen to agree that an illness is more than an explanation of behavior (even in court, &#8216;insanity&#8217; is much more than a diagnosis of &#8216;illness&#8217;), but that&#8217;s beside the point. What we wish to be true has no bearing on what <em>is true</em>. Even if, as reported at the time, some of the evidence suggested that he committed these acts as part of a God-loving crusade, the idea that he would not have been just as motivated by some other extreme ideology (e.g., anti-capitalism ideology) is absurd and an individual acting alone is much more likely to be mentally ill than to be part of an organized terrorist effort. His manifesto eventually revealed that he was fueled by <a href="http://www.torontosun.com/2011/07/26/breivik-no-christian-nut-just-nuts"><strong>any</strong> ideology</a> that fit into his clearly delusional view of the world.</p>
<p>Some argued that all terrorists are mentally ill; there is no difference between Breivik and an organization like Al-Qaeda. Or they described all terrorists as &#8216;evil&#8217; – an evil created by religion, as if religion is the only reason that people commit terrible acts. This simply is not reality. Psychologists have studied &#8216;evil&#8217; relentlessly since the atrocities of the holocaust during World War II and we have learned that average people will commit some fairly heinous acts if situational factors are aligned. If we do not recognize that good, sane people are capable of bad acts, we will be helpless to prevent it. What&#8217;s more, such extreme &#8216;othering&#8217; may make us feel better, but it closes our eyes to our own potential for wrongdoing.</p>
<p>The right-wing propaganda machine has done its best to paint Breivik as an isolated, politically-motivated nut job who was not a Christian. This is clearly wrong. However, painting him as part of a Christian terrorism-laden culture is equally wrong and serves only to fuel even more hatred. <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/jul/24/anders-breivik-facebook-hatred">Hate breeds hate.</a> Following are some examples of the kind of hate that I see growing among atheists.</p>
<p><em>A comment on a link to a report that the Westboro Baptists plan to protest at the funerals of the Norway victims made by a now ex-Facebook friend who claims to work for &#8216;The God Killers Inc&#8217; (and two replies): </em></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;FUCK THE Westboro Baptist Cult, and the God they pray to. I hope someone guns down this whole fucking group of hate fueling motherfuckers.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Hopefully the Norwegians will take them into custodian at the airport then fly them far north and dump them on a shrinking iceberg!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I always wondered why that hasn&#8217;t happened already? What a sad world we live in where innocent children are slaughtered and WBC isn&#8217;t? WTF OMG LMFAO&#8230;not really :(&#8220;</p></blockquote>
<p><em>A Status update from the same &#8216;God Killer&#8217; quoted above: </em></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Got banned on Teens Need Jesus page for telling the truth on the BS they were slinging trying to suck teens into their cult. Only took 1 day before I got banned this time. The Truth Is Consider A Crime By The Religitards.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><em>A commenter wrote this about a member of a Christian teens group: </em></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;sick fucks are everywhere and need to be grouped together and sent to antartica or somewhere nice and cold&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><em>…then posted a warning about a Facebook virus without first doing a simple search to find out if it was a hoax (it is).</em></p>
<p>Another now ex-Facebook friend whose comment, &#8220;fucking religitards!&#8221; prompted me to visit his wall, which reveals contact information that includes links to several Herbalife sites. His &#8216;activities and interests&#8217; section includes &#8216;fuck Walmart&#8217;, &#8216;fuck religion&#8217;, &#8216;profanity&#8217;, and &#8216;rationalism&#8217;. Yeah, &#8216;rationalism&#8217;. Because God is fucking stupid and Walmart is fucking evil, but Herbalife really works, right?</p>
<p>Finally, one former Facebook friend blew me away with this series of equal-opportunity status updates and link introductions:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The fat behind the desk rush said the heat index is all made by the government. And the earth is cooling f ing idiot&#8221;<br />
&#8211; on an article about Rush Limbaugh</p>
<p>&#8220;Xtains fundies are diferent musnutts fundies&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;This guy is bat shit crazy and be taken awaywith men in white coats&#8221; &#8211; about Glenn Beck</p>
<p>&#8220;Pat was funny he&#8217;s jusy bat shit crazy now.&#8221; &#8211; on a post titled <em>Tell MSNBC to Fire Pat Buchanan!</em></p>
<p>&#8220;Another bat shit crazy&#8221; &#8211; about Donald Trump</p>
<p>&#8220;Just found out 22 dems votedfor bonehead biil the f ing retards&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>And the shocker (bold mine):</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;<strong>Hate spreads quickly with the idiots</strong> he he bought his clips from the US&#8221; &#8211; on a link titled <em>Norwegian Shooting Suspect&#8217;s &#8216;Manifesto&#8217; Inspired By American Right-Wing Thinkers</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Which was followed the next day by:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;F ing republicnuts I hope they get what coming to them&#8221; &#8211; on an Article in <em>The Daily</em> called <em>How Republicans Screwed the Pooch</em></p></blockquote>
<p>When I can&#8217;t tell the &#8216;good guys&#8217; from the &#8216;bad guys&#8217;, there are no good guys.</p>
<p>And this leads me to something I&#8217;ve been trying to write about for weeks. In Part II I will discuss examples of irrationality and hypocrisy at the World Atheist Convention.</p>
<pre></pre>
<p>*&#8221;Big-S Skepticism&#8221; refers to the work of the skepticism movement in promoting the practice of skepticism.</p>
<p>**In my writings, the word &#8220;belief&#8221; refers to anything that an individual holds to be true. This includes those things that we accept on faith, because of convincing evidence, or as a philosophical conclusion.</p>
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