Comments on: The Psychology of Vaccine Denial and The New Anti-Intellectualism http://icbseverywhere.com/blog/2015/03/the-psychology-of-vaccine-denial-and-the-new-anti-intellectualism/ Knowledge, science, reason, education, philosophy, behavior, politics, religion, and B.S. Fri, 11 Nov 2016 03:28:33 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.38 By: C.A. Phil http://icbseverywhere.com/blog/2015/03/the-psychology-of-vaccine-denial-and-the-new-anti-intellectualism/comment-page-1/#comment-60182 Mon, 16 Mar 2015 08:01:38 +0000 http://icbseverywhere.com/blog/?p=1983#comment-60182 Miguel, you’re part of why mainstream media sites disable or heavily regulate comments. Almost everything you say is wrong or misleading, and you have to be aware that you either barely-read or are deliberately misrepresenting this post.

I see nothing like a “low blow”, “tactless quip”, or “hate” in Drescher’s post, though I see them in your comment. You are either acting dishonestly, or do not understand what these words mean.

Your attempt to pin the Courtier’s Response is inept and mistaken. None of the criticisms above are based on Watson being an expert or scientist. If anyone, including a blogger, makes a claim about something they are not expert on, then they should quote, paraphrase, or summarize an expert, and do so conscientiously. Watson issued claims that require citation/quote/paraphrase without offering any, and in other parts did cite experts, but did so incorrectly, getting the details wrong or presenting them in a misleading way.

You don’t need to be a scientist to honestly summarize research. You need to be an average, honest 8th grader.

]]> By: Barbara Drescher http://icbseverywhere.com/blog/2015/03/the-psychology-of-vaccine-denial-and-the-new-anti-intellectualism/comment-page-1/#comment-60173 Sun, 15 Mar 2015 16:12:35 +0000 http://icbseverywhere.com/blog/?p=1983#comment-60173 “You’re just being nit-picky” and “You’re just a hater” are both poor excuses–attempts to deflect criticism instead of address it. “She’s just a blogger raising awareness” is an even sadder excuse. And repeatedly speaking/writing carelessly far beyond her knowledge base is much more than getting “things wrong sometimes”, not that “bloggers sometimes get things wrong” is ever a good excuse. Also, I think you should look up the word “curb”.

I challenge you to find something–anything–personal in my post.

Oh, and please, enlighten me about this point that I supposedly missed.

]]> By: Travis Roy http://icbseverywhere.com/blog/2015/03/the-psychology-of-vaccine-denial-and-the-new-anti-intellectualism/comment-page-1/#comment-60168 Sun, 15 Mar 2015 14:06:43 +0000 http://icbseverywhere.com/blog/?p=1983#comment-60168 So rather than address points that Barbara made, you say that she’s being personal, while you are being personal yourself.

How about addressing the points made by Barbara.

Being “nitpicky” as you say is an important part of addressing a study and looking at the details. It’s not hate, it’s being thorough.

]]> By: Miguel http://icbseverywhere.com/blog/2015/03/the-psychology-of-vaccine-denial-and-the-new-anti-intellectualism/comment-page-1/#comment-60156 Sun, 15 Mar 2015 01:40:29 +0000 http://icbseverywhere.com/blog/?p=1983#comment-60156 Wow, good ole Barb is at it yet again… being nitpickingly critical while continuing to spew outright hatred and aires of superiority at old nemeses. Her points are valid, but obvious. SI Online is essentially an endorsed blog site so why presume it’s science in the first place? It’s like an Op Ed only without actual publication in print, and she’s treating it as if it’s up to win a pulitzer or something.

Anti-Intellectualism? Give me a fricken break.. are you serious? CFI should be ashamed? I could quote paragraphs of completely tactless quips and low blows peppered into nearly every point she made, essentially nullifying anything of value she had to say.

If you want people to take you seriously, don’t get so damn personal. No, Watson is no where near Maher or McCarthy in the pseudoscience department, even concerning Drescher’s so-called “expert” field of psychology- she’s a blogger raising awareness on issues that could possibly be of concern. I’ve never heard her claim to be doing science.. never claimed to be a scientist, psychologist, nor even a science journalist.. just a blogger. Readers all understand that bloggers can get things wrong sometimes, but doing so doesn’t curb “anti-intellectualism”…

Drescher just completely misses the point… lambasts it for what it wasn’t, but misses it entirely just the same. Perhaps she should leave blogging to those who are actually experienced at it and are capable of understanding it for what it isn’t.

Keep the criticisms coming, of course… just lay off all the thick layers of petty hate

]]> By: Barbara Drescher http://icbseverywhere.com/blog/2015/03/the-psychology-of-vaccine-denial-and-the-new-anti-intellectualism/comment-page-1/#comment-60149 Sat, 14 Mar 2015 18:16:26 +0000 http://icbseverywhere.com/blog/?p=1983#comment-60149

And, of course, Watson is now milking your justified criticisms as yet another misogynistic attack on women science writers.

Is she? I didn’t see that. I saw her respond rather stupidly to the criticism in general (someone tagged me on Twitter), but I don’t expect her to respond specifically to my criticisms. That’s not a normal behavior for her. She has very, very rarely even acknowledged my existence.

]]> By: MosesZD http://icbseverywhere.com/blog/2015/03/the-psychology-of-vaccine-denial-and-the-new-anti-intellectualism/comment-page-1/#comment-60147 Sat, 14 Mar 2015 17:06:28 +0000 http://icbseverywhere.com/blog/?p=1983#comment-60147 Good post. Did see PZ Myers come in and white-knight Watson, yet again, when you made some on-line criticisms of Watson’s shoddy work. Which was both depressing and predictable. It clearly does not matter just how awful something Watson writes is, Myers will defend it.

And, of course, Watson is now milking your justified criticisms as yet another misogynistic attack on women science writers.

Anyway, I appreciate the good work.

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